This week I discuss working with Frank, in salons on week 7 of Interior Design Masters on BBC/Netflix.
I interview Interior Designers Jordan and Russell from 2LG Studios (Two Lovely Gays)
We discuss their rise to becoming one of the most exciting interior design duo in the business.
Guest details: www.2lgstudio.com
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This week I discuss working with Frank, in salons on week 7 of Interior Design Masters on BBC/Netflix.
I interview Interior Designers Jordan and Russell from 2LG Studios (Two Lovely Gays)
We discuss their rise to becoming one of the most exciting interior design duo in the business.
Guest details: www.2lgstudio.com
Sponsor: To take advantage of the generous 15% discount from my sponsor Thorndown, please visit http://bit.ly/TVCarpenter. Discount code: TVCarpenter
Contact me: Wayne Perrey on Twitter and Instagram.
Music: "What's the Angle" by Shane Ivers
To learn how to achieve a Safe, practical and beautiful home,
join THE DIY DOERS Facebook group
On today's show. We'll be talking about working with Frank on the sound episode of interior design masters and I'll be interviewing Jordan and Russel, the influential interior designers from two LG studios. Thank you for listening to the TV carpenter podcast. This is a podcast where I, Wayne Perry interview all my friends, people I've worked with on all the interior design and garden makeover shows. I'll be introducing you to amazing interior designers to garden, landscapers, color psychologists, all the aim really of encouraging you and empowering you to create your dream home.
Speaker 2:Doctor,
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It just pulls away and then we could create more. So you could use it on windows or greenhouses, mirrors, jam jars, humans, ceramic tiles, what's great, it can be used inside and outside. So we've even left that mirror outside in the garden and it's still looking great couple of months later and it's made from 100% recycled plastic resin. So it's brilliant for the environment too. Don't forget, if you want discount can go to thorn down.co. Dot. UK and if you put in the code T V carpenter, you'll receive 15% discount on all online purchases this week on interior design masters, we were in Whitstable a seaside resort we were making over salons and I was paired up again with Frank. It was fun. We had, it was a, it was a tricky build because with the nature of salons you're dealing with electrics with water and then he wanted the whole floor re laminating. So we had to replace the whole floor. So it's, he'll take everything out to replace the floor and there was a step in it as well. So we had lots of step issues and then he had all this tiled, you saw those purple tiles, which were really interesting because originally when he'd told the Tyler said, yeah, it's just two sides. But in true Frank style, he pushed it a little bit. So in the end we created little pocket windows and that had to be accommodated. And so I was, I had to plaster board a whole wall in preparation for the tiler to come. And then Tyler had to come and do the basket weave effect and in tile inside these little pockets round stuff, we'd obviously men timewise with two, three days. You don't really get enough time to to do all of that and the floor and then had lots of electrician issues and the electrician, we all for electricians particularly, we always use local trades and we don't have an in house electricians, so we have to find a local train to come and do it. And now this guy wasn't a great electrician, but he loved the camera. So he had a habit of talking lots and he, he hung around a lot and, and made mountains out of mole Hills, which is kind of interesting. I think as true. That's why the AB shows use people like myself who are used to TV and the decorators who are used to working in a TV environment because we know what needs to be done in the timeframe. So sometimes we would get external trades coming in. They kind of work on their own kind of chilled flexi time, which is fine in everyday life. But if you're chargeable per the hour as this guy was, and he was just dragging things out and Paul Frank about it, I think he even said it on camera, he was like, right, okay, now in your workbook, can you do one now because I can't afford you. We were all secretly smiling inside because we'd all been thinking it. But yeah, so it meant that Frank's budget was really, really squeezed to the point that we have no beating trim on any of the laminates. And there's a moment where me and franca sitting down and they didn't show it, but we both had a bit of a Frank conversation going, you know, do we have any budget for any beating? No. Okay. So the trim around the laminate, it's not going to show, do we have any edging strips for the step, uh, now can't afford it. So it was frustrating for us as builders cause you can't finish anything. But Frank was caught, you know, between a rock and hard place. So I've trying to finish it and I've never seen him so stressed to be fairly even showed on the, on the camera. He was going, you know, I'm normally finished well ahead of time. I can't believe I haven't finished considering the first ever episode we did together. We were in embedding on the second day, you know, but he puts himself, to be fair, he really went out of his comfort zone and he pushed himself to the max and he totally changed everything. You know, the floor, the lighting, know there's plumbing issues involved, you know, all the tiling. And it looked great. And the barbershop owner loved it and it looked amazing. And I was really pleased when you went through gutted, obviously that zoo left. We loves you. She was so adorable. And, but even herself, I think she kind of, she ran out of steam a little bit on that episode and, and it was, it was tricky for her. But at the three, I think the, the right person went home and now we've got the final, we have Cassie in the final salon by the way. Looked beautiful. And she was very lucky, you know, and it was the first time I'd ever seen her get emotional. She was very lucky in thatL you know, going well this is my style on it and if I don't get through on this then there's nothing more I can do this first time we've probably seen her get a little bit teary and she, you know, she made it work, she pulled it together with all the gold gilding and you know, there was the greens whether you, you know, you l iked the green or not i s she had, there was an element of class about it and it worked for her that space a nd looked brilliant. So it's Frank and Cassie in the final and it's going to be a good one. It's lots goes on in the, in the final and I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be a shame that the show ends. But uh, we'll see what your think next week on next week's episode when we discuss the winner of interior design masters. I'm so pleased that on my podcast today I've got Jordan and Russell from two LG studios, formerly the two lovely gays. Now these guys, how, what are the most influential interior design geos that are out there? I've known them for about, I think we worked out about five, six years. Jordan was the runner up on the first ever series of the great interior design challenge. And on that series is the first time I'd ever worked on a TV makeup show. So we've been in this industry roundabout the same time and they live literally five minutes from my house. They're friends of my wife and I, they'd been round to us for dinner and I loved, I wanted to get them on the podcasts mainly. Yes, they're amazing interior designers and if you ever follow them on their Instagram to LG studios, you'll see the amazing things they do. When I chose to interview them, I chose not to ask necessarily about their interior design process, but what it takes to become an interior design company and all the little things that go along with it, you know, um, you know, social media or the collaborations that they work with and, and how, who they've met and how they've got to where they've become, which I think is, is one of the most influential interior design teams that are out there. They're fresh. So I hope you enjoy this. LA Buckley, their little dog to keeping quiet. We had to give them a chew stick, so he's sitting on their lap chewing this to six. You might hear him chomping away and he has a little barking bit going through, but it just has to wear in their beautiful home in, in Southeast London chatting about all things interior. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hello Jordan Russell to LG studios. Thanks for doing the podcast. We met about trying to work out how long it was since we met, was it five or six years ago on the[inaudible]? Yeah.[inaudible] yeah.[inaudible] is five years old. So we
Speaker 3:did the show the year before we launched the business in 2013 the show. Wow. I don't know, but that's a bit[inaudible] feel so long ago. But what's really interesting is the fact that five, six years you guys crave the two LG studios, which is you're like the influence, liking the influences are there to do that. Can you believe how far you guys have come in that time? It's so weird cause at the same time like it feels like yesterday, but then also it's been not a long slog but we've been grafted[inaudible]
Speaker 4:five years. I'm way. Yeah, it has been incremental. It's definitely been like a a long gruff.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well some people still say it just like appeared out of nowhere and made this massive special and I'm like it doesn't feel that we peer don't know what it felt like. We've just been like heading towards this point for the last five years. So I guess when you're in it you don't necessarily notice it so much.
Speaker 4:We have this thing at the end of every year where we do like a bend like this to make a list of all of the best bits and the kind of most creative moments and our least favorite moments. And then we try and kind of readdress that in the year that's coming and go, okay, let's do less of those less favorite moments. And that's doable. And these moments. And so each year we try and kind of refine, which is really not doing,
Speaker 3:it makes you stop and take stock of your successes and whatnot. But you never do that. Don't do that. No, no I haven't got the chief. Yeah. Yeah. And look again. Cause when you're in the thick of it, you know, things that are stressful or short time scales or whatever it may be. So actually to stop and look at the model on paper and write a physical list cause nobody to,
Speaker 4:well it's not very British things to say. I mean people say that a lot, but it's not like, Oh look at my achievements. Like it's[inaudible] isn't it? It's not like it's not for anyone else. It's more so that we can like the sense the, the, the things and work out which direction to go in and like what's working and what isn't working and
Speaker 3:yeah. Yeah. That's just, cause I think when, you know, find lost it for things as, as, as you guys do and when you start you kind of say yes to everything, you know, I'll do that for vacation, I'll do that. I'm paying a bit or give me that. Do you know what I mean? So, yeah. Now you've got, you're saying you've got, you've got to a point, you know, can you, what have been your wins this year? What are you advice[inaudible] gosh, it's not the end of the year. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I think they see it to be one of those almost like we have these hibernation years. I mean it sounds silly that, cause we're, obviously we're on social media all the time, but sometimes there are years where you're putting things into the pot and you're working really hard to kind of pack that one away for when it's ready to come out. And I think they've done working like that.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the call this year was huge for a brand that we really love and it was around pride, which is getting something that you know is hugely important to us. Um, so to do that charity work and the design project with our call was really exciting. Also the V and a, we did, um, a big project with the VNA where we styled six, no, five, six apartment. Yeah. Different sets. We designed different sets for them, um, to include all of their products. So they do like ropes, wallpapers, fabrics, safers, all sorts thing. So that was really great cause they're two massive institutions that we both revered for a long time.
Speaker 4:And it also, we've just designed to shape flat for quite a prominent developer, which is new territory for us. So that was a bit of a milestone of like it was likely different. We set our sights on wanting to do something like that, but it just happened to come up the Sierra and we jumped on it and said we've just finished installing that. So it's not been released yet, but we, that was a really lovely one, wasn't it? And then we've just done some work with Sunday times style,
Speaker 3:which came out today. Uh, which was really cool. So we've, we've, we've ticked off some really nice projects this year because when you first started, like when the GRDC, I think you'd styled one hotel, you know, the whole idea, you guys[inaudible] bit. And then so did you always want to go into interior design full time? Is that the main thing you want you to do? I think we'd come from, as you know, and I've seen background and then as a hobby textile design. So we knew that we wanted to work in
Speaker 4:design. Didn't really, but I didn't have a plan is where the short answer, when we wanted to do something creative, we had started to design textiles and it was kind of, we were just feeling our way weren't me and we had ignited something in each other that wasn't acting. And so we were just trying to kind of explore that and see where it took us. And I suppose a lot of that fell into place after GRDC that they shared that we did with. Yeah. And I, well that you did. Um, I was just on the sidelines cheering on and then coming in and helping in the final. But I think that sort of crystallized a lot of the ideas and it was just like, actually we can do this. Let's like really focus on mine's starting the[inaudible]
Speaker 3:Instagram and social media and all of that was a real wake was our only marketing tool. Yeah. We didn't have the marketing budget, we were just starting out. So I think we got in at the right point with Instagram, which is a main platform
Speaker 4:we use. Oh my God, if you, I mean when I think about back to some of the posts that we used to do back in the day, even just five years ago, it was such a different platform.
Speaker 3:But what, but what's really at the time that we were on the final of the inter, I keep wanting to say all of the different interior designers[inaudible] interior design challenge and you got to be, see and we all went to Dan hop with studio. Anyone to watch the finals. Yeah. And I remember, cause I got a taxi there with you and I remember sitting down and the final was our watch on a big screen. And you two were on YouTube at the time. I was going thinking phone[inaudible] or just seen it when you were done to DV. Yeah,
Speaker 4:well it was what was amazing in your side. Like you say, you call it the social media before everyone made as important social media. So you guys were in between touring with people at the same time and engaging with people. So the whole social media thing for you guys really took off. And then I think that's been the main influence for your business. Well we've tried to make it as sort of fun thing. The good thing is it never felt like a chore. And the social media thing was just genuinely, we just did really enjoyed it and we've sort of stayed clear of things that we don't enjoy as much as possible. And so the social media side of it, we always make it a part of our day and it's not like, Oh now we've got to do our social media. It's never been that for us, luckily. And I think we've just always integrated it into everything that we do. Both. We're both quite
Speaker 3:chatty, gregarious people that like to engage with other people. So it just felt really natural. We always say it feels like work you shouldn't do anyway if you can't think of something to post or you're struggling to, don't bother them step away. Do you know what I mean? So we've not really ever had issue with that. At least I think it wasn't important part. I think we knew that it was going to be a way to talk to people to get the message out there at the same time as writing as well. Rested an English degree. And before we went to the world Academy, that's not, I mean he's[inaudible] all of his mates are in like publish shin or they were writers. So we had loads of friends in different places that we can pull on. So you know, we, we got ourselves a column at the gay times, for example, super niche. Perfect for us. They didn't have an interior page necessarily at that point. So we did that for couple of years, which was another marketing until it was another wave or skating our autonomy out. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Well it was literally we didn't have any funds to start our business, so we were starting from ground zero. We had nothing. And so it was a case of this is the only option we have. You've got to make this work and we're, we've got to hustle and get the interest. There was no, and it just so happened that that exact point social media was dawning and you know that opened up all sorts of possibilities for loads of people. And I think at the time it annoyed a lot of people in the design world because I don't, I just
Speaker 3:feathers just because we were different. We came from a different background, we appeared, we made a lot of noise, we had a lot[inaudible]
Speaker 4:and that's an element of mystery to design. An interior is particularly that there's this kind of liberal Blackburg and you don't give away your secrets and you don't share your suppliers. And obviously social media is the antithesis of that. It's a, here it all is, this is what we're doing, how we're doing. And so you can get this and say, yeah, buy it now. And that's just completely against everything. That was the old school interior design. Insane. And there's nothing wrong with that, but it was just a whole different fresh approach. And I think it was we, we didn't necessarily know any other approach, so we were just doing our thing. Yeah. And, and now with, you know, everything is online. You can find anything you want. So there's no point in trying to be mysterious
Speaker 3:cause it's all that. So[inaudible] yeah. When you guys first started, you know, you named yourself like the two of the games and that came, did that came from your posts, wasn't it? It was what our friends called the show. It was a pilot. Someone I went to drama school with coined it. Didn't even, yeah, please go. Was there, see 23 two L tree[inaudible] and he used to call us the tip of the gaze and that it just caught on amongst our friendship group. And then when we came to know the business we were like, Oh we had his home close. Go do that. Shall we do this? Cause this[inaudible] said you can't all be[inaudible] but that's why I look us. For me looking back on the outside looking in, it was kind of coupling that concept but now I know think just that's crazy. You know and in a fun bubble got away. But then what I liked is about two, three years ago you kind of got serious and you kind of, you saying that we launching, we rebranding with judgy, finally got some money to build a new website. Yeah. I think that that shows adaptability of AC. You made that splash, you, you, you are fine, you are different. But then you kind of have to then compete with the big boys in a different way and prove your work.[inaudible]
Speaker 4:find a little bit cause of the studio. Great. We do have people working with us and also we found that we were going to to meetings and people wanted the two lovely gays and everything, which just is impossible concept. It's a lot easier as[inaudible] studio, one of us can turn out and one of us can go two days and one of it and we can divide and conquer and it is so much easier. But two lovely guys is still alive and well and we've got like a lifestyle fashion, new version of[inaudible]. I think it's quite nice because it's kind of like going back to our roots and being able to be a bit fresher and more open with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Can I ask more about that stuff as an artist? Whereas to at least two is very much about our work and the work that we do now. So it's um, yeah, it's been, it's been a really fun journey. It's been hard. But yeah,
Speaker 4:so I would say that you've touched on that idea of this kind of fun, playful and sort of cute approach of two lovely gays and the word lovely specifically, it was really important to us because I think it can be seen as soft or a bit nice. And, um, we wanted to show that nice can be excellent as well. And so it was almost a Trojan horse of like, yes, when I was a really lovely, Oh, had I baptized,
Speaker 3:luckily our dog in the background chomping. Yeah. You could probably hear the cheering all the way through. You're like, what was that? And now he's got a toy. Let's bring that over here. Bring that here, buck. And I'll hold that button down. He's just buckling his dash. That's in that sense. Yeah. He's got his own scrap. We'll add that to the, it's got keys. I want a dog. Um, yeah. And so, yeah, so the whole, the whole lovely thing is a bit of a Trojan horse. It's kind of um, cuteness and kindness and niceness can be a way of getting stories told in a different way that don't often get highlighted. So we always say we don't take ourselves that seriously, but we take our work very seriously. But that's proof that with at the high end collaborations you do. Yeah. Working with someone like Lynn USA who were like worldwide, the uh, French furniture company.[inaudible] linear Jose who we, they are the famous for the Togo sofa, which is, has become like a classic kind of, yeah, we will still see one of the guys when we worked with that, that was, they approached us, uh, LDF three or four, four years ago, um, to create uh, a reimagining of their slice chip IPS shop home, which had never been touched by another designer. Sort of said we developed a fabric collection with custom who were basically[inaudible] no live in forest Hill near us. We developed a print collection of wallpapers and fabrics for in USA that we launched at the FMI took out to New York the year after. So it was like, you know, to be approached by a brand like that. That's world renowned, you know, super serious high end design stuff was, yeah, it was amazing. That school down to Robert hasty if you're out there, Robert is like a lovely man who runs the UK branch of, of Isaiah and he's, yeah, he's just fantastic. Comes to mind. Very open togetherness. Yeah. Because it sounds like you've had a few influential people. I remember at the end of GRDC that Hopwood coach. Yeah, I remember when you first guys were going, I remember that thing. It was a, I don't have any money saying when I was credit out a podcast back a you go, I've been told to get a new wardrobe with skin[inaudible] you've got to look better than[inaudible]. So tell us about that whole process and what down in deed followed down. I make you join something we love done, done. I will say this. I'm sure he hates it. He was like armies to me. Good for it. But he really was that he really, he was racing a lot younger than most to be[inaudible] to look good. But he was so supportive and open and welcoming. You know, he was at the time he was president of the bid. I know he's still involved heavily in what they do. Um, and he, he took some worries when he got signed up. As you say, it took us out to Milan for the first year, a bank loan out today. They literally on the moderate changes were ridiculous. Now we just went like the same portrayals every day cause it's a lot of work. Yeah. The first year was just all bliss.[inaudible] um, it's, um, so what was the, what the, so going back to that, why do you guys went out and, and, and what do you see when you're out there? It's just a global view of what's happening in the design world. So obviously London has a particular slot and a particular take. And um, the Milan design scene, the whole world comes to Milan basically week in April. And all the new launches happen. New collections, new designers showing things. It's like the broadest collective[inaudible] guys officially the biggest design showing on the planet. So I mean, it's, it's where everybody shows first. They have the place to learn is I'm overlay, which is in, like I was saying, it's like 10 old courts all lined up together. It's ginormous. It's like 29. Yeah. The first year we took it upon ourselves. Well, Dan took it upon himself that he was on a mission to show us all of it, just so that we knew and we never went[inaudible] so there's one section called the classic code section isn't there? But she's just like the renter. I mean everyone should take one, but then it's like, you know, it's like that whole, what is it? It's like the opposite of that is tied to tortoise shell spoons with like a peacocks eyeball, the 27,000 files that no one needs or should ever buy. But it is that like you've seen isn't it, you know, get asked to go to certain holes or set cease. I mean we've, last last year we were actually taken to Cilento mobile as guests of Milan design week, which was amazing to me. Yeah, a real privilege. You know, there was a fancy dinner and they flew us out, puts in a lovely hotel and sort of, so I think, you know,[inaudible] Milan wasn't being covered on social media by any body[inaudible] not at all. And in fact, I remember an interior designer we met at a party once said to us, why do you go to Milan? What's the financial return? What's the, because the direct return to your business from going out and spending all that money and going into land. And I was so gobsmacked by it cause I was like, it's not about that. It's about filling your creative pool and knowing what's out there so that we can offer our clients the best, the, the, the most unusual collection of works from around the world. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's a bit like say intranet to the wide, she goes broad grand C shows. Wow. I love it. And it's, it makes me excited again to be doing this direction. Yeah. And actually it's a really good point that you just said sort of back when done first because that, that it wasn't being covered really by that when you'd be bold, there wasn't a lot of[inaudible] well it was still a secret, wasn't it? It was still like a secret club. We all know[inaudible] parties when we first started going. Now it's ridiculous. Isn't it? You can sort of see people not that week. You can see people coming down the street. So your a bit back, new designs dial. Do you have a designs that, do you think your clients come to you because they want a second, second style or do you still flex your muscles and seeing when they meet you when you meet them, you see what they think that's developed? I think when we first started we were yes people like you said earlier and we wanted to do everything. And there's value in that being a really positive force in saying yes, I want to make this work. And that's what we did for the first two years or so isn't it? And then we sort of started to develop our own style and then we bought this house and this house became quite a massive force for change in our business because it was a moment for us to kind of really express who we were. And up until that point we've been working with clients in a very collaborative way and which I think we still do. I think the whole design something, yes we do. We, we like to work with color. We really use a lot of pattern and we like to work with new young designers and artists to commission new pieces. And I think also we learn because we train as actors, we love to get under the skin of other people. And that's actually what makes it really interesting and it's really nice to meet different people and try and make the best version of them in their home. Yeah. It's not about our, but leaving our ego at the door and trying to visually translate someone else into something beautiful. I like that. It's always different. We definitely not that kind of studio that you go to for certain look[inaudible] go for it. No, definitely not. Okay. Um, you talked about this house and I remember when you guys even saw this house, I think we bumped into you just after cause wasn't your friend.[inaudible] my friend might happen to be, uh,[inaudible] Nicky backlog that um, we'd look very different. I remember you guys were so excited about his house going, we planned that Christmas tree in the whole forever home. But I mean treat your house. This house is stunning and it styles beautifully like do you know penny, little of Senor kitchens and all of that. Do you feel a pressure to have these house style as looking at beautiful it has it? Absolutely not. I think we're a home is have home is too to live in. Do you have a worry about that thinking they're gonna they're gonna. This has to be on par. I never worried that he won't be where it came from, but Jordan was born with this level of confidence that I have never known. I don't really ever think about what anyone's going to think about a, does that make sense? I don't ever think like you do more so, but I don't know. I just, it's for you at the end today isn't it? And we say this to our clients is your home only you have to love it. Who cares what your friends think or your neighbors think or you know your guests come to stay. Might think it's not for them. It's for you and your[inaudible] when you're in your thirties I mean not to like pull the age card at all, but we bought, no, but we bought this house at a point in our life when we were really ready to have a moment for us. And so there was a lot of freedom that came with that and we, we deliberately thought let's just re relax into this and express ourselves. And it sort of happened at the right moment I suppose, isn't it? Yeah. You said this house was federal design from, from down to the carpet up the stairs. You know the first person you'd
Speaker 1:put Pat on carpets. So I mean, so I love the fact that you guys are just net Rick or even your, your kitchen. And I think I said this to you before, you guys have become influencers within the of material design, I think anyway, particularly something like your kitchen when she's such a design statement. Anyone sit down into your Instagram posts, you know, bright bowl, pink art, cheese. And when I first saw it and I said this to you last week, I went, Ooh, I'm not sure about that now. If I could talk my wife into having it, I'd have it mind to let me speak to go home show that last year.
Speaker 3:What amazed on I actually had this year in Paris is like pink arches everywhere. Do you actively, this is a really weird question, but did you actively want to be influencers? Is that just our, we don't even know what the question is. No. Yeah, I don't think so. I think it just, cause actually I, okay, this is a good way of describing it. There's work that we've done that when we've put it out there, it hasn't landed and it's taken two years for them. We thought, Oh my God, and I'm really excited about this coming up. Yeah, this is the best thing we've ever done. And you put it out and it sort of goes and then two years later it gets picked up. Everyone loves them. We want a Pinterest board for the project from speaking about[inaudible] I need, and I think that may be his influence. I sort of hate the term. It's just call yourself an influencer. He's quite arrogant I guess. Maybe. I dunno. I guess that is the world within which we live and we found that. So it's definitely not what we set out to do. I think we just set out to do good work and hope that people like it. And I guess we're looking of now we're not looking at it cause I hate the word look. It's not luck. It's hard work. We sort of got trying to get back to like the beginning of news. Like I'm trying to get back to the beginning of things like the kitchen and trying to work out what the thought process was. But it was genuinely just creative day in the studio of us playing with different things and like I was brought out, I was generally looking for something. Can't find it anyway. Yeah. And then we think, right, okay. Like, how can we go about making this or what brand or company can we work with on the collaboration or the kitchen companies to say, Oh, did the kitchen company we design is John is Hungerford. Yeah. Which is an important distinction is natural news partners. So do you, did you go to them because you could find out, did they come to you? We designed this house when we first moved in, we wrote quite an extensive story boards and then it was a case of trying to action that in, you know, within our means, which we didn't have a lot in the pot. So it was a case of slowly phasing it wasn't it? And so we knew where the kitchen was going and when we didn't know how we were going to get there. Um, so we spoke with a couple of companies and actually John over this was the company that were best positioned to make that shape. And even say with that, when they first came, they were like, why don't we just use our standard rectangular cabinets and put arch doors on there? They'd just overshoot the time. We were like, why? Why don't we make an art? It's not gonna work. I've got the hard and steam bend curse words and did it. But they went there, didn't they went there and it's, yeah, we've just sold our first one in Paris, installed the kitchen. It's been installed in Barre, which is very three here.
Speaker 4:You pick arches. Yeah. And quite a lot of the freestanding pieces of the freestanding one is the one isn't there that that is everyone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 100% yeah. So back to you too. As a design do URL, I'm interested to know, you know with any partnership, when you guys are married, I've got business partners, you bring different things to it. Does that mean treating or how you DD things out? Like what's, who's Jordan brings all of the comfort, confidence and bravery and I bring the detail and so, okay. Yeah, I'm not, I'm just like blue. I see blue and Russell's like both Y which blue? I'm like, I don't know, it's just blue. I'm a story person. And your visual personality is so what I will say as well, if, if we've got an hour to do the same task, I'll start working minute one and finish at minute 59 with a minute spare Russell or think about it for 59 minutes and do it in the last minute like so. We both get there. We've just got[inaudible] really different processes, quite opposing processes. You can imagine how frustrating it is, but I don't think we make it work. It's sort of compromise.
Speaker 4:Yeah. You know in the truest sense of collaboration. We do do everything together and we have very different takes so it's quite a, it's quite[inaudible] test tapes. Tasty. Tasty is quite similar. I would say that the, the way of implementing that is very different. It can be quite heated and it is. There is a tension to work.
Speaker 3:I think that's why we get the best results. Going back to the kinds of relationships you're in with the someone you work with. I think because we married it does go that extra, you know, we're not scared to go there. Do you know what I mean? It gets quite heated, like you say, it can, especially if we both feel really strongly about something that we don't agree on. We can be battling things out and you know, this might be a rogue for a client or something. Anything God[inaudible] yet. But I do believe that's why we
Speaker 4:get to the right solution. I think that's why we've developed better ways. We've developed better ways of understanding why we're not understanding each other.
Speaker 3:So when you do like you write, you write for the Metro, you know, so who writes those who you know, do you both do them all? Well we both do them and, and interestingly some of our friends would be like, I can tell when you've done it with is quite funny. Yeah,
Speaker 4:that actually is, I don't know how that happens. It just sort of happens doesn't, it depends on what we're working on in the studio.
Speaker 3:[inaudible] please. Can you do it this week? I just don't have the time. Think about it. Yeah, because we wrote, the idea I do is rice for the Sunday times and I, I'm rubbish at it. I'll, I'll, I'll message questions. Do, and I'll tell some, Stefan, I'm thinking she does all the writing side of it, but yeah, no, I'll, I'll give my input. So it's kind of the gob leads tear back the same things, you know, that way we're good at. Whereas I'll do certain social media stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I would say I probably lead[inaudible]. I do the show, I do the big and that's what you need the social media as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it for us. Lots of right. Every Instagram caption that we ever really hear all yeah. Nothing like that.[inaudible] cause yeah, I don't have your, then I make a lot of limits. Think I have to go back, which is like worse. He's like, Oh my God, you've written the wrong there or where or where. I'm like[inaudible] yeah. With me and Steph[inaudible] doing a pitch for BOSH and I start Bosch one literally the one thing not to do. Yeah. With the client sponsored by boxers. At the end of every podcast, I always ask that dream home or something. So I want to, first I want to ask Jordan, I want you to describe what your drinking and your, your dream or what I'm drinking now. You can be drinking anything. This is, ah, okay. It could be something you already are and it could be it's part of this house or it could be they just something, Oh God, what would I be drinking? I love it. Everyone always goes to the alcohol. You know what I was, I was like, if he's the morning and I was in my dream room, it'd be a really nice like, Oh, flat white, but if it was the evening, I'd definitely have a glass of red. What if it was the summer? I might have a Rosen. What would the room be? God, who knows? I haven't created it yet. We, we definitely plan to build our own house that's in our future and 100% we wanted to give, give me a style of house thing. Give me, Oh God. Like totally modern. I'm so over that time and yeah, I don't want to draft. I want insulated walls and like it's sort of, yeah, definitely. Super, super muttered. Probably like one floor who needs stairs? We're all going to get old, like, like the picture[inaudible] now I just think something like super[inaudible] sleep, very modern, lots of glass, maybe a bit of black rubber or something. Latex Z bookkeeping and dressing room. It[inaudible] resident. Give me your whole, your the same thing again. But it's a holiday home. Oh I know where you go. Well there's two very distinct sides of my personality cause I am a Gemini. One is craving like just Mericia so some beach, some gorgeous resort, the Dave's and just with the sea lapping underneath and yeah, just looking at the stars. That would be lovely right now. Um, and then probably the other side of me is just like Scandinavia all the way. It's what I thought you were going to get just like my, my inner Vijay, but just once, just wants to see that all the nights and be surrounded by snow all the time. Um, well probably ugly vibe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been announced in may. So social media wise, um, what your handles and how can people look it up
Speaker 3:to LG studio for front main account or on two lovely gays. Fancy a bit of function. Uh, yeah, that's, that's the same everywhere isn't it? Yeah. Instagram, Pinterest and Twitter. Twitter[inaudible] yeah. And yeah. Pinterest is told you studio. Yeah.
Speaker 1:What can goes crazy is Buckley wonder dog. Thank you guns. Oh, thank you.[inaudible] I hope you enjoyed listening to my interview with Jordan and Russell is so inspiring what they've done in such small amount of time and all those amazing collaborations. And if you ever get chance to look again on their social media to LD studio specifically on their Instagram page, you really be inspired. I hope you enjoyed my talk about working with Frank again on interior design masters and don't forget, next week is the final and we get to see what he creates for his final episode of interior design masters and my final episode. Remember if you enjoyed this podcast, the TV carpenter podcast. Don't forget to like, subscribe, share, tell people about it. And as always, if you have any questions for me, you can contact me. Wayne Perry on Instagram and Twitter. And again, a huge thank you to my amazing sponsors thorn down. If you get chance to watch Alan Titchmarsh show on Tuesday evening, where there with thorn down and Caroline, one of the owners of thorn down, she's there with paintbrush in hand, painting away. And do you remember, you can always get 15% discount from thorn down if you go on fallen down.co. Dot. UK and put in the code the T V carpenter. Now hope you're inspired to go away. Enjoy a make your house a home. And thank you once again for listening to the TV carpenter.