This week I discuss working with Frank, in the final of Interior Design Masters on BBC/Netflix.
I talk about working with my sponsors Thorndown and www.wesparayanything.com on this week's episode of Love Your Garden with Alan Titchmarsh.
I interview Reena the queen of all things Hygge, as she explains the "Danish way to live well"
Guest details: www.hyggeforhome.com
Sponsor: To take advantage of the generous 15% discount from my sponsor Thorndown, please visit http://bit.ly/TVCarpenter. Discount code: TVCarpenter
Contact me: Wayne Perrey on Twitter and Instagram.
Music: "What's the Angle" by Shane Ivers
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This week I discuss working with Frank, in the final of Interior Design Masters on BBC/Netflix.
I talk about working with my sponsors Thorndown and www.wesparayanything.com on this week's episode of Love Your Garden with Alan Titchmarsh.
I interview Reena the queen of all things Hygge, as she explains the "Danish way to live well"
Guest details: www.hyggeforhome.com
Sponsor: To take advantage of the generous 15% discount from my sponsor Thorndown, please visit http://bit.ly/TVCarpenter. Discount code: TVCarpenter
Contact me: Wayne Perrey on Twitter and Instagram.
Music: "What's the Angle" by Shane Ivers
To learn how to achieve a Safe, practical and beautiful home,
join THE DIY DOERS Facebook group
On today's episode are we talking about working with Frank on the final of interior design masters in Manchester and I were discussing what it was like to build an indoor and outdoor kitchen on love your garden with Alan Titchmarsh and my guest today is Rena from who? God for home. We talk all things who got all things cozy. I can't believe I'm saying this interior design masters is over. What were you going to do Wednesday evenings? It was the final and there was the gorgeous Cassie and the wonderful Frank in the final and I got to build for Frank, we had such a great time up in Manchester is these beautiful loft apartments and they had free reign over these apartments and working with Frank, I think he's got a really beautiful, I think he's, he's very stylish and he's very different to Cassie. Cassie is very upcycled and very vintage and their styles were very, very different and the response to to you know, the winner, Cassie, I thought was a worthy winner. Her rooms were absolutely beautiful, particularly I loved her lounge. And interestingly, when you look at it on screen doesn't do it justice. And there was certain angles that maybe they didn't catch. But the, there's big open plan stairway and this big vaulted ceiling that she had that Stewart had builder at panels and the way the kitchen looked, it actually looked better in the flesh than it did on camera if I'm honest. And I think the reason why Cassie won in the end was overall she planned the whole three day build meticulously. We you saw on her shots, she'd, she'd done mood boards for each room, she'd put pictures everywhere and she'd done detailing. So everyone knew exactly what they were doing. Cause they had two builders and two decorators and obviously NICU Banford bows from when they were wild, help them out in Cassie's. So she literally, her builders were told everything that they wanted. And in contrast, in ours, we, Frank didn't have any mood boards or any plans or we didn't really have any concept of what was in his head. So as a builder it was a little bit frustrating. And, or that you saw at the end with an hour to go when all of a sudden he um, told me that he wanted a palmate but it was a volted arched ceiling, which you would have to do a template for, you'd have to create it. And then I'll say one to date fabrics and upholstered and you saw me dropping my head down on the bed just going, no, we can't do it. I think by the end also I packed away all my tools. We were cleaning up, we were hoovering. It was the last hour to then suddenly be told that you want to do this job, which would take a couple of hours to be fair, to do it properly. So it was kind of, I think Frank, and he probably won't mind me saying this, I've spoken to him since he kind of let himself down a little bit in the end, just with the whole preparation and our organization or of the final. I think that's why he got Kyle along. Kyle is so planned, so meticulous. So Kyle's job really was to, to assist Frank and to, you know, hold his hand and kind of do the phone calls, chase up things to be the, you know, the secretary to, to Frank to Frank's credit. Now there was something that didn't get shown and I was squirming, I was watching it with my family and friends watching the final, there was a moment when we were fitting the kitchen with Frank and if you don't remember, he bought, he bought these beautiful bespoke kitchen, which cost a fortune and they, the way the doors, um, some kitchens have pre drilled hinges and this kitchen didn't and you have to read, you have to drill the holes for the kitchen, for the hinges and the front and the back look very similar. They're like a disc for the finger hole on the front and all the cabinets will lay it on the floor. And me and the other builder, we will fit in the kitchen. And I was drilling in holes, um, for the hinges and without realizing I drilled the holes on the front of the base cabinet door. And as I did it, the other builder Dickie looked at me and went and then Frank went, what? And I went, Oh and Frank saw it. But at that point there was a camera there and the camera crew turned round. So what's the matter? And Frank went, Oh no, nothing. I just spilled some water cause he could see my face going, Oh my God, I'd rather done it. And the fact camera crew moved out of the way. They went into another room to see something else. And at that point it went way and what have you done? And I went, I've drilled in the front of your kitchen cabinet door and he'd just bought enough. You know, we'd had to get them specially sent there to, to have it done. I've drilled in the front of the cabinet door and I was like, I'm so sorry mate. And he was like, and to Frank's credit, he actually said, you know, I didn't want to make a first because you've been so amazing throughout the whole of the series. He didn't want that to be my, my lasting legacy on the show. But then I said, look, we need to tell the crew, we need to tell them they need to capture this because I know what TV's like. You need to get everything. So I, I said, so I called the camera crew in and then I said, look, this is what's happened. And we filmed me T, you know, me explaining to the camera crew what had gone wrong and how it'd be that bit of a disaster nightmare. So they had the footage. Um, but I always was thankful for Frank, but he wanted to spare me the embarrassment of that being on camera. And actually in the end they didn't show it. And there was a moment when we were talking about the floor and we call them into the kitchen and I thought, they're going to show that bit and everyone will think, Oh my God, I've ruined his chances by damaging the kitchen. Um, but yeah, to Frank's credit, he was amazing and he didn't want to land me in it. But saying all that with regards to Franks, you know, lack of organization, I think he made a decision. He knew where his strengths lie and his strengths lie. We by being really good at that things with buying a brand new kitchen rather than having somebody painted cause he knows how long things take to paint. He decided to shop, he decided to get, you know those beautiful blue curtains for the master bedroom. He decided to get those, you know, handmade and spent his money there. So he spent a lot of his budget on big things with the aim of knowing that he's not great with time and he's not great with spending time on loads of different things cause we had quite a big build in, in the lounge whereas Cassie is quite particular, certain, quite resourceful in a different way. So she chose rather than to buy things, to have things made but use her organization skills to make that work. So to be fair, they'd both just played off their strengths. I can't believe the show is over. We had so much fun building and I'm working on the show and especially on the final role in Manchester. And I think on day two we all went out for a drink after work and uh, the contestants, you know, and the builders and we all went out and we all ended, ended up in a karaoke bar and I got entered into a karaoke competition and ended up winning. I think I won a hundred credit and spent the a hundred quid on gin and tonics for everybody. Um, but we all had a night to remember and the series was such good fun and fingers crossed for a second series if you enjoyed. All my behind the scenes talks about it. I've managed to interview the majority of the contestants from the show and they'll be coming out over the next few weeks. So you'd be able to hear in their words what their experience was of working on interior design masters. Tuesday you will have seen me cutting wood and with Alan Titchmarsh on love your garden. It was a really, really fun garden to do. It was for this lovely lady who has soup kitchens. She's 83. She feeds hundreds and hundreds of people and we wanted to create a kitchen, um, for her in her garden. So we had this beautiful big house, big supplied out building, which had an indoor area and outdoor area. And the idea was to create a kitchen inside and outside and it had this beautiful marble work surface that went from, from inside to outside. And I was brought into to fit a kitchen. A lot of the landscape has obviously don't work on kitchens, but I figured a few kitchens in my time. So I fitted the kitchen and we made this plantation style, um, sideboard that ha would house or her cutlery and pots and pans. And then with the help of David Domini together, we built this huge table using scaffolding boards on the top and we put these big metal legs on there. It was probably one of my favorite bills. It looked beautiful and I think the, the sleekness of having an outdoor kitchen is something we all aspire to and it was really achievable using great wood. And there was lots of wood there and lots of things where we're painted. A lot of things were painted in the thorn down pain. So my sponsor, as you all know, is thorn down paint and the Kona mr mrs thorn down Caroline, she was there on hand for two days painting and we were chatting and she was telling me again all about this wonderful paint that they use and we managed to use it within the garden throughout. So we painted the whole of the outbuilding. We painted, there was a shed at the bottom, we that was all kind of a brand new shed and we painted that beautiful blue and they have amazing stencils that you can use. Um, so thought and um, encourage you to use these stencils. And then, uh, Francis free handed some, some patterns on there. But what was really interesting is David Dominee sent some chairs away and she, he sent them to a place called we spray anything. Now I, I was introduced to these on this episode. Now this company, we spray anything literally do waste isn't the 10 but if you saw on the show they sprayed I think six chairs in six different colors, very tropical colors. And also we had this plastic, um, fencing. It's like a lattice effect. And that was sent away to we spray or anything and they sprayed it all in a thorn down color as well. So thorn down supplied all the paints, sent it to, we spray anything and they sprayed this amazing, it was flawless. The, the finish of the paint because it's such a great water-based paint and the way that the company we spray anything sprayed it, it looks to me, it looked like it was factory, you know, to come straight from a factory. So when we were hanging out, I was like, is this actually one of your colors? When I was speaking to Caroline from falling down, she said, yeah, this is one of our colors. And, and, and it looked absolutely brilliant. So remember again, the thorn down is my sponsor and there've been amazing throughout sponsoring the podcast and it was lovely to see them, especially if there's a moment, if you get to watch the episode, there's a moment where David is, is ripping Alan Titchmarsh about the fact he's done some topiary on. Um, this is prude, this big Bush and it actually looked like a dialect and there were laughing David nominees taking the Mickey out of antique Marsh. And at that moment you see Caroline passing in the background smirking in the background. So it was brilliant to see my sponsor on TV. She sent me an email saying she was highly embarrassed about that. But again, remember if you want some more information about thorn down, you can contact them at Thorne down dot code at UK. And if you want to buy anything from them with a 15% discount code, you use the discount code TV, carpenter, and you can enjoy their paintings as well. This week, my guest is a lovely lady called arena. Now, Reena is a who? Gus specialist. Who have you ever heard of who get it spelled? H. Y. G. G. E. she assured me it's called who? Good as in new guh. But with H and a, it's about the Danish way of living. So it's not necessarily just a look on a static, it's a state of mind. It's about being cozy and relaxed and calm. And I've come across her on Instagram. She followed me and I followed her back. And then I realized that my wife would be reading a book called Heuga, the, you know, the other way of living their Danish way of living. And then also, and I told her this in the podcast, um, my wife has been auditioning for um, frozen. The Broadway musical is coming to the West end and she was playing this song cause it was a song she had to learn to sing and she had to do a dance routine too. And there's a whole number called who got in the show and being, I didn't know this. And her three daughters are huge frozen fans. So when I told her this, it literally blew her mind. So having listened to Reena, explaining what, who got me,
Speaker 2:Rena, thank you so much for agreeing to talk to me on the TV carpenter podcast. But I really wanted to pick your brain and talk about who God is, who God is, how you say it, how do you pronounce it?
Speaker 3:Well my Danish friend has told me that it's who God with the emphasis on the goal.
Speaker 2:So let the Latin new girl who got, and what's really interesting is I my wife and got given a book who got the little book of who gone the Danish way to live well. And so it's been on her bedside table for quite awhile. And I was like, well what is that? And she's always is just a, a way to live. It's supposed to be all kinds of, you know, I'm really good for you and for your home, your home feel good. And then interestingly, my daughter's been listening to frozen, the musical on Broadway at the moment is coming over and there's whole song about Hooga. Did you know that?
Speaker 3:I just not know.
Speaker 2:It's my wife's an actress, so she's been auditioning for the show. And the dance routines you had to do was to the song who got, and it talks about the Danish way and they talk about what it means. It means cozy and comfortable. And it's just interesting that the huge American brand, Disney brand is the biggest and fun number in the whole show is about who got,
Speaker 3:I'd really let us that Google it after. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I wanted to, I originally wanted to play a little clip on the podcast, but thought Disney might not allow me to have the rights to play the song on the podcast. So I was going to actually play it for you. But um, I thought I wouldn't get away with it. So, um, tell me a little bit about your, your background and how you discovered to God.
Speaker 3:So I was renovating the first home that I tend to be. My husband took both, I think it was a 2015 that we were renovating and we had two no ones at that point. And it was kind of, you know, when we'd moved back in after all the work had been done and you know, we were on to the kind of, the fun part I guess with the decorating and everything. I was appointed in my life where I had two children and two age two, um, the kind of the full walls that surrounds me, you know, I was in the house all the time and I'm, I was just feeding like it needed to be a place which made me feel calm and relaxed, as relaxed as I could be with little ones. Um, and in place that I wanted to be, that I didn't want, I didn't want to have to feel that need to be up all the time, you know, having to go to, you know, coffee shop or having to go on, you know, paychecks and things. I just wanted to really nice space that I could just be in for really long time because once you have little one, two that you don't go out as much. And that's when I started looking at, you know, more interior design and you know, what you can do in your interior years to, you know, have that kind of feel. Um, that's when I came across and who God and my sister had just come back from Denmark and he told me all about it and I let Scandi, you know, naughty continues. I've always been really inspired by those kind of kind of pallets, um, that, um, the way that they bring, you know, a cozy, cozy to home and make it really inviting. So it was all kind of born out of that baby fist renovation.
Speaker 2:I'll ask, did you come from any, an interior design background? Is that what you, you did before having children?
Speaker 3:No, so this is all kind of new to me, but I think that the one thing that I've always left, I guess is, you know, a static things that, you know, so I've always been into fashion. Um, and I think that, um, you know, fashion and TV is, you know, they have quite a kind of coast relationship, you know, cause especially like, you know, for women who had fashion, you know, you've put together outfits and then, you know, when you buy your first house you're doing the same thing, but she how she need you picked together, look putting together a roof and you know, making sure the colors go together. So it felt like a natural progression for me when I started talking about who got on the line and cause the renovation also was the starting point for my career change and like who you are now in interior design. It, it was just timing that no one was really talking about who got in the UK. And it was about a month after I launched my blog and you know, my um, the house size, renovating in a Hooga, you know, cozy way that Aqua started talking about it. So, um, I got quite lucky there. Really
Speaker 2:perfect timing. So how long ago was that then? When did you launch?
Speaker 3:The renovations kind of starts in 2015 and um, but the blog and you know, when I sat up, you know, my channels and my blog officially it was in autumn of 2016.
Speaker 2:Uh huh. What I really love looking through your, um, your websites who go for home, who go spelled H Y G G E for home.com and you kind of really express that it's, it's, it's about creating, I think you put it down, you creating our home, not a home. So the idea is that it is, it's about creating the home that's right for you. And how important was that when you, when you are creating this home for you?
Speaker 3:It was really important because it goes back to my point, you know, we needed a home that boldness, joy was more joy than any of the place would bring us. And it was a place where, you know, we could relax to the kids, you know, have people over bet that w I didn't have that need. You know, when you get kind of Coppin fee that when you've got kids. Yeah, well I wanted to create an indoor outdoor, like living wet. I just don't ever feel that. Like, I just didn't, I didn't want to feel that urge and need to escape and get away from, from the house, which I think could, you can sometimes get overwhelmed with that when you've got little ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, absolutely. Is, is who, God, is it a feel is a look or is it an experience or is it all three of those things?
Speaker 3:I think it's all three, especially when you read that book as well. And I think as well, it probably means something different to, you know, I've read a lot about it and you know, in Denmark, I think people would think we're all quite ridiculous here in the U K and you know, that w w everywhere, like, you know, in especially with the suppose and thing. I mean, I have no idea what they're gonna think about that, cause they who got to that and it's just natural. It's not something they talk about. It's just their way of life. It's just the way they do things. You know, they're very kind of, um, you know, house proud family-orientated like my friends from Denmark who's Tommy lot boaters that they knew from a very young age when if that kind of birthday cake gets Christmas gifts would be something for the house, for their bedroom. You know? And I just loved the idea and I've, I've started doing that with my girls as well that, you know, from an ADH game them really aware of their surroundings and wanting it to, you know, feel a certain way. Making their room's really cozy and relaxed as well, has been really important for me that I think it, you know, it's not just the physical of what something looks like, it is the feeling that comes out of what that looks like.
Speaker 2:Okay. So if we go back, like you said, it's all three of feel can experience. So to create the feel of who got, what would you recommend? What's your top tip for that then?
Speaker 3:Well, I think there's a few. So for me, if we're talking about, you know, you interview in your space and having that feeling of contentment things and if you know, bringing who go into the home, it's texture. So that you know, having, you know, lots of things that you want to touch and feel, you know, like fabric. So thinking about the fabrics that you use, the thing and I think is having everybody calming, you know, kind of hamlets. So you know, I like light and tibia, but it doesn't have to be like a stark white, you know, there's no brilliant whites in a who to house, you know, it's all about all flights and you know, even dark colors work, just keeping them neutral natural materials. So I like to have lots of woods in my house. I like the checks to position of materials. So I like, like, and stuff together. So I have my be table made and it had like an an O tall, but then it has a steel frame. Yeah. And then I think daylight. So I think having a connection to the outdoors. So one of the, you know, vast things we did in our renovation was, you know, the bi-fold doors and the connection to the garden. And I think who got, you know, a lot, the emphasis, you know, is on just always being connected and having those views out. And then I really like having some metallics in my interior, so I do like, like, um, you know, coppers and I like, you know, bras and mixing metals rather than say, um, CHRO and Silva. Um, so yeah, and then I think the pockets cold side of things is having good storage, but it's not about having everything hidden away. I think with you guys about, you know, having things that you love on display, um, you know, having things out in the kitchen, not having everything in cupboards and pushed away, but actually having things that you like accessible that you can look up.
Speaker 2:No, it's not a minimalist way then. So yeah,
Speaker 3:it's not a men have less, no base, equally, not on past. Less
Speaker 2:so is the idea of having storage so you can clear away all the plastic stuff that there are. All these kids have. Yeah. But then being able to have the nice things out, the the tactile, touchy feely kind of things. It was interesting. Yeah. Is that interesting? Like I never imagined in my head, I'm always think cause I'm a carpenter and what makes me happy is woods and grains and that you're saying different textures Oaks, but having the copper's there and having the metal of the table, I never imagined that to be in there as well. I never thought that you would have metals in there,
Speaker 3:you know? It's the contrast that gets it a kind of more I guess. I think design wise it looks kind of really good, but also you know those two materials together I, you know, from an interiors is pretty subjective. I just think it works.
Speaker 2:Yeah. On a look then that you're saying, you know, this idea that for your children they, you buy something for the house. What would be a typical, who got thing to buy for somebody?
Speaker 3:You know, if it's an adult, I know it's pretty predictable to say this, but you know, candles or anything to do with this now. Like in a few sentences. So I think that that all contributes to, you know, feeling doesn't it, if you can smell somethings you can that kind of, um, serving that feeling of warmth, like physically, um, you know, the smell can like, you know, when you walk in someone's house and it smells nice and you know, there's been thought into what spin put that we'll do in the folk. Yeah. But I think then with the kids, you know, I've gotten my kids really into cushions and blankets. You can buy like new fleecy info sheets, sheepskin blankets I'd be wearing now con Ikea H and M. anyway. Um, and so, you know, they've all got a blanket each, you know, that that's got lots of cushions on the, you know, yes. They checked the come along the floor or Val and set that and you know, Carolyn's then, so it's really nice. And again, like one of my, um, my middle little lady and she was at home with me a lot when I was, you know, started this blog and everything and started talking about, um, who got and you know, when, if a fee for it words, it's cozy. It's so funny. And she just, everyday she comes home from school, the first thing she does get her blanket out.
Speaker 2:It's really interesting you're saying that because you've probably heard of like Mary condo and you know, me and my wife cleared out the whole house just after Christmas and you know, did it spark joy and we threw it all away. And there's those part of me thinking, I wonder if Marikana actually lives like that. Do you, do you feel a pressure to, to live, um, pressure's the wrong word, but like that the who got away, cause obviously you're known for it. They said, you know, your, your handle is, you know, who go for home. You know, if people can run to your house, I know you're in the middle of renovations, but when you're designing your, you're renovating your new house now, when you're doing that, do you feel the pressure to make it you got, or is it, it's become a way of life now for you?
Speaker 3:So I think that, um, you know, Instagram is not real life, you know, and, and that, you know, the parts that who got that I like and I can relate to you is, you know, my interior and making the house, you know, like really lovely, but I'm not tidy person. Yeah. You know, my house is not tidy. Like it's, you know, it's tidy for photo. So I show online and what I show the people, no, that's not my RT. I've got three children under the age of seven. And I also have, you know, the things that I can't quite relate to, even though I would love to, if all, if there's a lot who Gar accounts, which is all about slowly living, you know, and all about kind of um, you know, be slow and Saturday mornings, you know, uh, making pancakes, the kids and you know, it's already lovely. My life is not like that Saturday morning. It's like military operation, get everyone out Gnostics, you know, swimming between, you know, it's rushing around, you know, 24, seven. So it's kind of, you know, it's not, I'm not deaf, you not promoting like a kind of who got lifestyle like this. I live, my days would be slow living and everything's kind of really romantic. It's not like that. But I think it's about picking and choosing things that do have an impact on your like wellbeing. And for me, you know, even though my house is and might really tidy is, you know, like right now, like can we talk on the podcast too? I'm sat in my living room looking out my both full doors and I've got my blanket on me and not, you know, it's things like that isn't it, that make you happy
Speaker 2:because I suppose it is very, it's a very mental health kind of thing. So me, you know, me and my wife, we used to, you know, my wife's an actress and, and you always, you always used to be battling for the next big thing or between the zoo's jobs or the next big contract. And then we realize now actually just chilling and the fact that we can sit and have a coffee and poached egg quietly is actually the best part of our day to know what I mean. And then, and I imagine is that the kind of thing with who are where you, you just try and cling onto those little bit of little moments that make you happy. Like sitting here now with your, with your quilt fair on you and you, you know, and just being comfortable and just being relaxed and then just going, okay, I'm living that way. You'd like you, you don't have to subscribe to the whole thing. The,
Speaker 3:yeah, I completely, I think why I relate to who got so much is because you know, when you put together and you take all the things I said about the text, the materials and the metallics and the, you know, the textures and you've got that all around you. It makes any space, you know, form covers inviting. I think what's really special about Hooga and like this kind of Danish Scandi, you know, rustic interior is that it's the, anyone that, you know, anyone who likes[inaudible] at the budget you're on, you can do it. Yeah. You know, it's not, I'm not talking about high end interior design here. I'm talking about really accessible, really affordable. Yeah. And I think it's frankly
Speaker 2:so on your, on your website huger for home.com you have shops on there as well and, and affiliates and, and you, you, you work with a, a lot of the products. Um, what kind of products would you say, um, sum up who got and which, which you think look great in homes?
Speaker 3:One of my favorite things for storage. And if you haven't got lots of storage in the house, we haven't gone anywhere that you can build in his belly baskets, you know, rotten and seagrass baskets, you can Chuck all the toys in and, and, and, or, you know, blankets. So it's kind of thinking about like, I like the festivals that you're going to keep things in, which you might not want like the actual thing on show, but the thing that it's in. Yeah, it'd be nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's all soft on the edges. Those aren't there. They're kind of kind of on the field, collapsible almost. So they're kind of just quite relaxed in the space. Nice. New do workshops, interior signing workshops. Um, and tell me a little bit about those. So if someone was, if I was to come along to your workshop, what would I expect when I was there?
Speaker 3:So you would expect to, uh, talk a little bit about who that, and talk a little bit about, you know, your home and, um, also we talk a lot about like dream homes. Like what, you know, what would we actually love? You would learn a little bit more about the, of tips that we talked about earlier and how to introduce that into the home and how to style your home seasonally. So we have each season, you know, you can use different fabrics and you know, different ways of, you know, bringing um, a different feel to the home. Um, do you do, and there'll be a cost thing.
Speaker 2:Oh, nice. Okay. So little bit of making as well. Um, at the end, at the end of my podcast, I always ask my guests to describe a room for me. So it could be a room that you currently have or it could be a room that you aspire to have or it's your dream location and also the drink that you're drinking whilst in this room. So can you describe them for me please?
Speaker 3:So I am in the middle of building a house, a forever family home, and the space that I really want to get rights and I've spent a long time planning is the open plan living space. So we're actually, for the first time, you know, it's not gonna just be a kitchen diner. We're going to have the kitchen, the dining and the sofa, and with the piano and in one space so that the space has to do, um, you know, it has to have a lot of functions. And in each space you're going to have a different feeling and what experience something different that effectively it's all got to connect. Yeah. So that's been the challenge and that's why I've been working on, and you know, I'm in much[inaudible] when it's done that in the mornings I'll be, you know, in the kitchen having, um, maybe a Snoopy with the kids in the evening I would be in the snugger area, hope few drinking a hot chocolate and looking at the fire. So, yes.
Speaker 2:Do you know what, what's really interesting is I speak to a spiritual lot of interior designers and, and people talk generally, we'll talk about the fabrics and they'll talk about materials and the colors. But yours was very much more about the feel was more about the experience and, and your hopes for the experience, which I think is really interesting. Is it just, you know, um, it's very much that you go away from what you said and from what I've, I've read is more about how it makes you feel necessary more than what it actually looks like. So it was very telling, it was really lovely. So if people want to find a little bit more about you, they can contact you on, um, who got for home.com and what social media handles that you want and how do they contact you through?
Speaker 3:So I have a really active Instagram accounts and I'm more active on Instagram and my blog at the moment. And that's just purely down to, there's not an, I was in the day. So then who golf the home on my Instagram and it's got an underscore who got under school four and school home and the same one can trust. I'm quite active on that
Speaker 2:so people can contact you that Rena, it's been an absolute pleasure speaking to you and thank you for lifting the lid on Hooga and I know that as soon as I, we end this conversation and you're going to go and check out the frozen Broadway cast recording of[inaudible] and then you can put it on your Instagram. But yeah, enjoy. Thank you so much for talking today. We know it's been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 4:Bye.
Speaker 1:So there we are. That's the end of episode eight. Hope you enjoy listening to Rena, explain all about Hooga and I hope you enjoyed my behind the scenes gossip about the final of interior design masters and working with Alan Titchmarsh on love your garden. I know that's it. The end of interior design masters. So every Wednesday I won't be talking about that but I've got a few more episodes of the Atlantis Marsh show so I can talk about those for the next few weeks. And then I'll be interviewing a lot of the contestants from interior design masters. So even though it's finished on our screens, you'll still be hearing lots about it and hearing about the behind the scenes from their perspective, from the contestants perspective, once again, a huge thank you to my sponsors thorn down. And if you do get a chance to check out the[inaudible] teach my show from this week, go see it. And that look of Caroline's face in the background as she's laughing at Allen stage Marsh is worth the watch. And remember, you do get 15% discount by putting in the code tbCarpenter@thorndown.co. Dot UK with all online purchases. Remember, if you want to contact me, please do at Wayne Perry on Instagram or Twitter, ask me a question and please like, subscribe, share, tell everybody about this podcast. It all helps people find us. Some people can enjoy listening to it as well as you do. And once again, thank you for listening to the TV carpenter.