THE TV CARPENTER : Home Makeovers with Wayne Perrey

Wayne Chats with Blue Peters 'The Skinny Jean Gardener'

October 25, 2019 Wayne / Lee Connelly (Skinny Jean Gardener) Season 1 Episode 11
THE TV CARPENTER : Home Makeovers with Wayne Perrey
Wayne Chats with Blue Peters 'The Skinny Jean Gardener'
Show Notes Transcript

This week I discuss creating a living wall for a new Central London Tree House Hotel,
www.Treehousehotels.com

I explain how to turn off your water and gas in an emergency.

Plus I interview Blue Peter gardener Mr Skinny Jean Gardener (Lee Connelly) as we discuss how to get kids in the garden.
www.skinnyjeangardener.co.uk


Sponsor: To take advantage of the generous 15% discount from my sponsor Thorndown, please visit http://bit.ly/TVCarpenter. Discount code: TVCarpenter

Contact me: Wayne Perrey on Twitter and Instagram.

Music: "What's the Angle" by Shane Ivers

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Speaker 1:

On today's show. I'll be talking through how to turn off your gas and water supply to your home in case you have an emergency and I'll be talking and interviewing the skinny Jean Gardner. He is the number one garden podcaster and he was the blue Peter garden presenter who is there to help the kids and inspire them to be bleeding. Fingered. Firstly, I want to say a huge thank you to gone down painter for sponsoring this podcast. I met thorn down about two years ago when I met them on love your garden and I created a load of how to videos for them. They supplied me with a load of paint which I use to do a huge make-over on my garden. My garden is full of wood now. That was about two years ago and we're coming up to winter now, but everything has been out in the garden for two years. It's had two summers and a winter. This will be the second winter kind. I just having a look around the garden and everything is still in tip top condition. Everything still looks as it did, you know, could do with a little bit of a clean just because of, you know, when you've been walking you get splash of muck up things and stuff. But you know, it all looked great. I use a decking, I'm staying, it was one of their wood dye stains, which I used and we, we put that on the F on the decking and that, you know, as kept that survived my workshop, I stained and I put two coats of that on there and that's protected. That would um, you would never know. You know, it's probably about eight years old now. My workshop, what I was really impressed with is the terracotta pots. I put two or three coats of down paint on the terracotta pots and I did that because terracotta is porous. So when water gets into terracotta, if it's on blazed, gets into there over the winter expands and it cracks Terra cotta pots, which is why they're really cheap. And most people put their terracotta pots inside a greenhouse or inside a warmer area. I've left them out over the two summers and the winter. And at the moment they look, you know, none of them have cracked. It's interesting the ones that have cracked or the ones that I didn't paint and the metal, um, there's no flaking appealing coming off any of the metal. So if you want a paint that's eco based, that's really good for the environment that can be used on wood, terracotta, plastics, metals, check out the thorn down. And as always, they're so amazing. They're giving my listeners 15% discount on all online orders. So if you go to[inaudible] dot co.uk and type in the code at TB carpenter, you can get yourself 15% discounts. You can protect all your furniture over this winter. Thank you for listening to the TV carpenter. My name is Wayne Perry and for those of you who don't know who are new to this podcast, I'm a TV carpenter, presenter and I work on all the major interior design and garden UK. Make over shows. I created this podcast really so that I could inspire you guys to create dream home by interviewing interior designers, garden designers, color psychologists, anything that is home-related that inspires you within your house to create the dream house you've always wanted. This week has been a crazy week for me work-wise. The first thing I've been doing, I'll be working on a hotel, this amazing hotel in central London, which is opposite than Langham hotel and it's for a, it's called the Treehouse hotel. It's this new hotel group where everything is green to stay in the ball. Everything's a bit like a tree house, so they've got the top two floors of this big building floor, 15 and 16 and I was brought in because I knew I wanted the garden producers on love your garden and works for this company who do living walls, who do you see outside these vertical planting and they'd on the top floor, which is the roof terrace area. They've got this amazing vertical planting wall and then wanted 50 odd bird boxes. I had to make all these bird boxes, all rustic and they are going to get planted and dotted around all of that living wall outside to encourage birds to be up there. And while people are eating and having food and drinking on the balcony and then the level below, which is actually going to be the reception area. So people come into the hotel, go up into the top floor and then open out and they get the view of London and they want it. It's all wood, it's all clad and it loads and load the plants everywhere. Everything's hanging plants like Coca Dharma is that hanging from the ceiling and it looks visually amazing. And they have this concept idea that on one side of the reception wall and they wanted a living wall on that wall, but they wanted it all clad in wood and the plants and flowers would come through the crevices of all the wood and in principle and as a design concept. That sounds amazing. And I was brought into to work on this, but the problem is because there's a living wall behind it and living walls or in these 20 centimeters by a 50 centimeter trays, vertical trays, and they're called cells. And that has to in irrigation system and watering it hangs on the wall. You have to be able to access these cells in an emergency. So if for any reason the plants die or there's a leak with their watering system, they needed to be able to remove the planting. And the cladding they wanted was like the idea of would just ship lapped on top of each other, like shingling and that you get, you know, like on a, like a roof, like a shingling roof or something like that. So I was brought in to create this wall that looked like it'd been thrown up, but also you could unhook it and take it off and access the panels behind. None of us had ever done this before, as in I'd never built anything like that. The living wall people had never had a living, um, a vertical clad wall on the front of it. And the designer just designed it and I'll go. So there was lots of head scratching but we made it work. If you look on my Instagram you'll see the pictures and I used rough sawn feather board, which is what you use for fence, you know, strips of it and we cut it all down and it was like I'd like four or five different thicknesses of it and overlapped it on and I'm really proud of it. The result looked really, really good and everyone's really happy with it to the point that they've decided to follow that theme through and cloud the lifts inside the lifts with it and the downstairs, the entrance canopies, all going to be clad in this feather board. Like I said, it was a lot of head scratching cause we got to be able to unhook it all in big sheets. But it works and it looks really, really good. So I have that all of this week building that. But then one morning I was working and presenting with my good friend Steph Brown from the D O I do is at the Southeast property expo. And we were giving a talk to all these people who are buying properties, who are thinking of renting and being landlords. And we did a talk on their main stage. We were telling all of the audience some top tips about how to renovate properties on a budget, giving them DIY top tips. But also we were teaching them how to, how to look after the property in a gas, uh, water or electrical emergency, how to turn off your gas, how to turn off your water, how to turn if your electrics. So even if you're a landlord or you're a homeowner or you're renting, you should know how to do all of this. Particularly if you're a landlord and you want to make sure you know it's an investment for you. You want to make sure that your tenant knows how to do these things. So part of our talk was how to protect your house. Um, and in previous episodes I've talked about electrics cause I interviewed EMA from spark and bell and we, and that was a good opportunity to tell you about your fuse board. So I'm not going to repeat that so you can look back and listen to that if you want to learn about how your fuse board works. But how does your gas and your water supply work in your house? You have the mains waters apply, you've got a tap outside the front of your house. So if you can't turn off your water internally, there's always a tap at the front, normally outside your front gate and you can turn off your water supply there and that's where your water meter normally is. And then it comes into your property. And then you have a stopcock. So you have another tap and it's usually under the stairs. Um, sometimes in your bathroom. And if you turn that tap, it will turn off all the water supply to your house. Now you should try and find this before you. You need it to my business partner, Steph, she's a plumber and she said so many people, she goes down to their house to do some work and they don't know where there's top cookies. They don't know what it does. And then their, if their house is leaking, they're there. They're running around going, well, how do we turn this off? So try and find your cock and you turn it lefty. Lucy opens the valve, which means water flows and righty tighty tightens it and that will close the valve and that stopped water going through. So find your stopcock, turn it lefty loosy on righty tighty righty tighty go all the way. And then once you've tightened it up, open it up. Um, you know, all the way to the left. And then when you opened it all the way to the left, turn it back half a turn to the right. And the reason why you don't leave it fully open because if you left it fully open and then you don't go back to it for a couple of years or a year and it seized up, you haven't got that, that you need to turn it, you know, left or right just to get it moving again. So remember to open the valve up fully, um, by turning it lefty, Lucy and then turning, I want half a turn back. So you've got some real room when you come to to move it again. So that's your stopcock. So find that next to all of your appliances and in new appliances that are being fitted over the last few years, you will see little isolation valves. So each of your appliances has their own isolation, your own turning off facility, particularly your dishwasher, your washing machine. Normally isolation valves are that little silver collars that are attached to your pipe work and they look a little a aligned through the middle. And you can put a Flathead screwdriver in that and you can turn it like a screw. You turn the screw. And if, if the line is in line with the pipe, it means water can flow through it. But if you turn the screwdriver, so it goes across the length of the pipe work, it'll stop the water going to that clients. For example, we had a lady on our DIY doers Facebook group saying we've just bought some vintage taps and we fitted, they're brand new to us cause we fitted them to our a sink, our bathroom sink. And the top of them just blown and there's water peeing everywhere and um, anyone only plumbers quickly in the area. And literally one of our members got on and said, just find the isolation bothered. And if twist that, turn that with a Flathead screwdriver and it stops the water going to that tap, which means you haven't lost water in your whole house, but you've just lost it in the area. So if you wanted to change your tap, you could. And the same for your washing machine or your dishwasher, you know, you can just turn these like little taps that are underneath the units and that will isolate the water going to that appliance. So check all your appliances, check if they've got isolation valves and that's how you turn off your water if you need to in an emergency. Now, gas as DIY doers and people who you know, I encourage people to pick up the tools and have a go and do all of these jobs, but please, please, please don't do anything to do with gas legally. You're not allowed to change your gas cooker, your gas fire fee or guests system in any way, shape or form unless you're a gas safety engineer. But when I can teach you is if you smell gas in your house and you suspect there might be a gas leak, the first thing you need to do is find your gas valve. The gas valve is an isolation valve is normally where the gas meter is, so the gas comes into your gas meter and then there'll be a big lever arm. It's quite a big one and you turn it opposite to the way it is. It can either go one way or the other. If it's on one way, it means it's on. If you tell it to do that, it means it's off. So go find the gas bat off, turn off the gas supply to your house so then it's not going around your house and then open all the windows. So you get this gas to escape out of the house, open all, get a through draft, open the doors and get air through through your property. Don't turn on any lights, which is a lot of people will go to their gas meter and their gas supply, um, valve and they'll turn on, it might be under the stairs and they'll open the door under the stairs and turn on the lights under the stairs. Don't do that cause you might get a rogue spark from your light switch that could ignite the gas. So don't turn on any electrical appliances whilst you're trying to get the gas out of the house. Obviously don't smoke. Um, you don't go lighten your naked matches. And then what you should do is contact your gas supplier. Legally. Your gas supplier has to come out. British gas, you know, and power. Any of those have to come out and make your house secure and safe. There'll be a number where your gas, me too is because whoever fitted your gas meter will have a number there and bring them in. It's like a, you know, free line, call them and they'll send somebody out and they'll probably tell you all the same things I'm telling you now to do first. And then they'll send somebody out to find out where the leak is, is their job to make your house safe. So remember, turn off your gas supply, don't turn on any electrics, open the windows and doors and then ring your gas supplier for them to come out and fix the leak. So that was the kind of things that we talked about, the Southeast property expo and it was, it was good fun. We, the audience was lovely and we gave them lots of other decorating and interesting top tips. And like I said, while I was there, I met the skinny Jean goddamn at Lee there again. Now Lee is a really good friend of mine. I met him last year when we designed gardens at the idle home show. I designed them with Lynn Lamborn who I took mentioned about two weeks ago on the podcast about, had a chat with her, but Lee also designed the other gardener. He was Lupita Gardner a few years ago and he has a really successful podcast called the skinny Jean Gardner is probably the number one gardening podcast. And the whole aim of his podcast is to encourage kids to get stuck in and grow things and encourage them to garden. He's really fun and friendly and he came round to my house a couple of weeks ago and I interviewed him for the podcast. I hope you like what he has to say. Hey Lee, thank you for being on my podcast. Thanks for asking me. So Lee or skinny Jean God or what do you go by?

Speaker 2:

Uh, it's become like Leemore now it's, I, I, I did, you know, skiing going with cool, but then people start to come up to you and saying, hello, mr skinny. Jane might actually just leave, just call me Lee. So we met at the idle home show last year. We both, uh, you designed and built with your dad a garden and I code designed and built another one with the fabulous Lynn number. And so that's the first time we met. But the reason why I'm doing a podcast is because you're here because you are mr. garden podcast there and you're telling me all about it and you've been absolutely amazing and you've helped me out and give me all the top tips and tricks. But for my listeners, tell, tell everybody a little bit about, I just, just, I'm brilliant. But uh, so yeah, so what I do is it's mainly like kids and family gardening. Um, a few good few years ago now it was blue P a garden, the football, which was an interesting thing to get into. How long would you do that though? For three years. On and off though. Three years. And it's like, wow, you were there, you were there. I was like, well, mostly once you spell up how many times? I say it was about six times because garden insight, wine and things, especially kids garden and[inaudible] that, you know what it costs to like get film and done, that sort of thing. That garden always seems to be put at the bottom. They've got a location. Yeah. When I was up I was in South South FUBAR sit Manchester, they people get anger back sort of thing, but it's up there. So it was interesting to me. I did it with my brother as well, what I started with and we were the first ones to take the allotment out there and get and grown your own. Oh great. That's the best way to get kids garden in through that. And um, so yeah, as we interested in, I've always all started with just an allotment and then TV sort of come after that, which was really odd cause he never was something I was looking into getting into. So how did they find you then? Well, we called the skinny Jean gardeners. So do you, what would you do in the social media thing? Well that the thing, so we, when we started[inaudible] I had no idea about gardening. I honestly thought potatoes grew above ground. I had no idea. So we started this Instagram account or Twitter called skinny Jean garments because we gardened, st Jean, there's literally no better stories than we wanna know how or why skinny Jean got books is we garden skinny jeans. We started that anyway, just up the road from us is um, Jimmy[inaudible] from um, channel four and Jamie's friend, I'm not that he probably likes to be called that much, but he's got a farm up the road from us and he spotted us just randomly on Twitter. You guys want to come up? I've got, I've got a, a, a cow paddock that I'd like to turn into an allotment and we went up there and it was, it used to be, there wasn't a lot of it there, but because he had kids and his wife used to look after it just gone over, grown the way to like just crate higher than that. You know, you go do what you want with it and we're like, wow, Jimmy. Jimmy's asked us to do something, let's do it. She spent weeks and weeks doing this. And then to keep it short, like basically we started and allotment, now we've got visitors to sort of give us advice and Twitter and asking people how to do stuff. And then we obviously met Jamie through Jimmy and did a few bits for his YouTube and then Mason schools. And then, and then from that basically give the media side, like the blue Peter, that sort of stuff coming along where we did like Titchmarsh shows some of their brunch, things like that. And it was good. I loved it. I've got blue Peter badge, which is good. It doesn't get you into, I thought I've[inaudible] in town. I mean, not with a different kind of wins. It doesn't work. Yeah. So that was really cool. So that got means a whole world of it. So before all of that, I was an electrician. Yeah. That's[inaudible] good trade. But I was like, that's why I'm kids that left school, wasn't sure what to do. My dad's a builder and it's like the care trade basically as a thing. And, uh, I don't know. It just was, I didn't have a passion that the passion wasn't there to go in everyday to work that went traveling for a year before that, but he's going to wail back. So get ready. I'll probably start doing, I'm at GCSE. The trip was no passion there. And then when I found garden days, I mean enjoy this and then I'll see turn the TV side of things either or. It can start like a, a career for me. So for through that we got noticed a lot more. We got asked to do more brand deals and um, and then just as it was starting to kick off my grandma's site. Hello David st one. I don't really mean it. What you're breaking up the band. We were in a band, so, so yeah. So then there, there was archive. Go back to[inaudible] attrition. I've been having myself, I'm, I always relied on dyo that was a more confident manner, both of us. So I wasn't sure if I could do it. Well, it's interesting like you're not coming to like I've listened to your podcast. You're not unconfident by any means. No. Now my, I'm overconfident. My wife, I met my wife 10 years ago. I was a different person now. Now I annoyed her too confident. She said, you sing a lot. That's the ego. She said it's just ridiculous though. It used to be paid the mortgage beforehand before I start doing this. And this is another reason I like doing, doing podcasts and meeting people like yourself is before all of this I could not even answer my home phone. I was so nervous. So such a nervous my manager. Um, and he sort of brought me out, Michelle. Yeah. Would it be good or bad? I don't know. I've even seen you w obviously we went to Seattle home show. We built gardens at the alarm show, but we both presented as well. So I do DIY talks and you do your, your garden house and you're there with a glittery jacket, your firing questions at the cannons. You're doing a lot of all of that stuff. Do you mean joy for someone who couldn't pick up the phone then do you enjoy that side of it? The stage side of it? Yeah, I think there is um, a fun aspect to some ask about. They have a taper. There's like two different sides. Once we were on stage or a different part. I mean you, you know, you're a different person. Um, I'm skinny Jean garden and I'm not late. Um, but I enjoy doing it because I just think especially like kids garden and there's ways of getting it across on still the only garden that goes around and go clearly jacket on. Um, it just sticks on ways of putting across and I think I'll, I'll put a nice different spin it and I enjoy it. I enjoy getting up there and the kids love it. Like that's the best thing if you get the adults are blank face that are kids. If you get laughed on talks, we've just just adults and they're like this guy, what's this guy doing? But only the kids are there and they absolutely love it to them, to the kids. Then what gets through to the kids most then? What, what has got the most traction when you, when you're presenting to them? I think the entertaining show that that's the best thing I do for the kids because it's, and it's all about grow your own sister or like I said earlier, that's what got me into go and that's where my passion is and that's what kids like food is my, I am things like we've seen in the industry of food just get bigger and bigger in the kids cooking at school is, it's such a big thing now. Yeah. Um, I think growing their own, knowing where that food, which w where they're cooking, that's really important and if they can grow something from seed that then turns into something they can eat. Amazing. Yeah. Fantastic. So that, that's one of the things that um, I really push but it's just putting a bit of a game show spin on it where I want to stage. So that works really well. And then on the other side of things in the lease side comes out where I also do talks, which is like how to mix like that.[inaudible] you talked when we're at the adult home show last year about doing it. But you had this idea for this book cause I think you've, you've done like some of your podcasts, you've just from like hacks and little, you know the recycle things. You, you're doing a book now, you in the middle of writing a book. Yes. I'm all, I'm almost finishing it mate. I'm not warfare. I can talk for, for UK. But fighting is not a skill. Can you believe I've got a star GCSE. Wow. Told you I'll come back to[inaudible] and, but now I can't. That's technology as like nice technology. But anyway, the book's amazing.[inaudible] but um, through the blue Peter side of things, it's like how to make so fantastic. And then people ask me to do blogs and videos around that. So it's a bit behind the scenes. But basically you get cool some page to blog or vlog about how to make, when you look around the house to see what can you make something in the garden. And that has become something, which I was a bit like, I don't want to spend money on materials basically. But I actually, yes, I'm proud of that now because that's what it should be about. Like if you, if you're a parent, it's the six weeks holiday was the, um, October holidays, you know, it can cost a lot of money to go and do stuff. And if I'm sitting here saying, right guys, you can do, you've got always say sounds cheesy, you've got whole adventure sitting outside your back door, which is the garden. Um, if you've got kind of a balcony, whatever, it doesn't matter what size gone and you've got, but if I'm saying that and then saying, right, all you've got to do is go and spend under, quit on, on staff. Yeah. Then people are like, well, we're not gonna do that. Oh yeah. So my whole thing is, and this is what the book's about as well. We've got a load of makes that you can do just as it's either around the house or you can pop down something like pound shop or anything like that. And just some basics. You feel a bit off an effort. I think that the most expensive thing in the boat is about 20 quid to me to build and I think that's good. Yeah, it's a whole whole day's activity and then you can do stuff afterwards with it. Like the park hotels are fantastic ones for that. So yeah, that's the best way. So when, when will this book be? When do you think you'll get it out? When's your aim? So at time of recording when we're chatting now, is our fingers crossed? It's going to be Christmas between or in belief. If not it's going to be just as the season starts. I have February, 2020[inaudible] will come together. It's exciting but it's, I mean I've gone down like self publishing loop. Yeah, a bit different I suppose at that age.

Speaker 1:

But it's hard isn't it? So just because then it's self motivation as well doing it yourself. But what's been quite nice, if you know, people follow you on your social media, you're constantly talking about[inaudible] I today, I need to do the book. And you know, and it's kind of, it's been a good therapy for you to say to you, no, you're whipping yourself while saying it. You know, it's making you do it. Cause as soon as you put it out there and say you're going to do it, is that maybe with the podcast I'm going to do a podcast, can't not do it then be like, you know, um, and it's enjoying. But is there anything in the book I, cause I've seen your station and I've seen some of the stuff you've made on there. And just quickly, is there anything that you, that you want one of the, that makes, that you're proud of, that you can quickly tell us about? Which is an easy fix

Speaker 2:

because it's just start off with, I say grow your own is the biggest thing. And plastic is a massive issue. Everyone's chatting about it now is a problem, especially in the garden industry with plastic pots. Yeah. Um, can't believe this still being sold just on their own. It's crazy. Like if you look on marketplace for anywhere, okay, hundreds free. I've got hundreds in my pot and shit just to get rid of two people. But I just think if you're starting in grow your own and starting to like grow from seed, there's so much and around the house that you can use like just um, like the cardboard tubes of Lumos turn them into little pots and easy eggshells. I love John F what you're gonna do and actually I was checking in a composter or you could start growing and smartly seed from it or even the egg boxes, all these sorts of things that you can use instead of going out and buying pass the pot. You can, you've got around the house costing you absolutely nothing if you want to grow from par. Yeah, it's cheaper as well. You get more plants. I mean the cost of a, to my open from like one of the big sheds you get for like two queer ticket or something, a pack of a tomato seeds is literally about two pound 50. You get so many more pounds from it.

Speaker 1:

I remember doing years ago, my daughter's 11 now, when she was younger, we did a load of stuff from seeds and we put them all in trays and we put them up in the loft in underneath the Velux window when crazy. Do you know what I mean? So I didn't have to go. We live in a flat, so we weren't, we didn't have a greenhouse or anything, but we did it indoors. Yeah, there's amazing. And that we, I did vege with her as well. And that whole idea of, you know, potato. So I spoke to her garden and this is before I was doing the gardening shows and I said, what's the best thing I should grow? And he was like, potatoes for first year or two. Just cause it turns a soil over. It's getting it going. It's so easy. You can't really fail with it. Do you know what I mean? We did all pink for Apple ones, little, um, little new potatoes and the tasted amazing. You know what I mean? I literally go, Eva, can you just go out and get some tomatoes? Can you guys, and she loved popping down and getting it and I think inspired her to have a go and you know, realize where our foods come from.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly. And I think it's really important as well. Like you said, you don't have to have a gun to garden. Everyone's got a winter suit. I can do bits on a lot of my stuff. I start on the window sill and just picks. It's easier than I've got a point in shed and greenhouse, but it's easier just doing it on the window sill not in my wife would agree. Um, for February, between February and April, they'll all the windows full of plants, but you don't have to have a garden to, to, to go on jet. I mean, everyone's got a window so that they can do something for us. Yeah. And I think that's a really important thing that I thought,

Speaker 1:

I've not got a garden, you know, as I've always, you can do it. So what's the future then? What are you hoping for?

Speaker 2:

Um, well, I'm just waiting for Mani Dawn to retire. I saw your interview. Well, listen to your interview with him. How is that give his goods? So you get to meet all these great people, but you must see, like we've talked about before about meeting great people through podcasts there got to chatting, which was pretty impressive. Yeah, it was great. It was great. It was[inaudible] and it was such a long campaigns. Try and get him and he saw none of it.

Speaker 1:

So that was really helpful. I love that as well as like, yeah, I'm not on social media. I didn't hear the song. I didn't hear that

Speaker 2:

song of hope for him. Is he at like, he didn't even violin so he, I bet you. Did you see what I mean? So yeah, no, I thought like I love podcasts and um, people consume court costs one and a half times more, may do video. I think that's really important, especially as whole world we're getting into without going into technology and stuff too much like Alexa and things like that. But my daughter was in the Chi of day that why we're not going Alexa in the car. We put there probably are cars out there or we just can't afford my mom and dad yet. But this whole world is when we were growing into is, is crazy. So I'm just develop the pocket. Like you say your, you know, your podcast is huge and it's, you know, one of the biggest gardening already is one of the biggest garden podcasts out there. Yeah. How long have you been doing it? Two and a half years. You might think. So video of sort of picture side of the steps. That is is what I'm asking. I spoke to you about it. Like do you concentrate on something long enough? Anyone? Do you concentrate one your mind on one thing, you can grow up, you can grow it. Yeah. Um, but I just love doing it and I've loved to, it's hard mean I'd love to do radio because I'd like LA, I do a live phone in some times on my podcast. And to have that interaction with other people phoning in with question stems, my laugh is, it's great. So I'd love to take it to that. But who knows? You know, it's, I, you just don't know where, where these sort of things are to be. You just got to enjoy, enjoy the journey as it is. And I find that hard sometimes. You always fingerprint index finger to stop and just appreciate what it is you've gotten what you did. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But, um, but yeah, we'll just see what you see other guys, man. Okay. So if, um, my listeners want to find your podcast, uh, how are, um, what's your social media is? How can I contact you? It's Canadian guard. Just tight. I always say just type in skinny guy or your shit. There's not many skins and gone is about it. I'm not sure. I, yeah, just type in that. Yeah. Yeah. The confined skinny Jean garden. It's been an absolute pleasure and thank you for inspiring me to do my podcast and thank you for coming on and good luck.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

How cool is Lee, mr skinny Jean gardener? You really is the new face of gardening. Such a laugh if you listen to his podcast, his skinny dude Ghana. It's hysterical. He just singing and yeah, if you'll just listen to what she is, Instagram stories, they're hysterical. Hysterical in itself. Thank you for listening to the interview with mr skinny Dean Gardner and thank you for listening to me talk about how to protect your home either in a gas and a water emergency. And once again, thank you to my sponsors thrown down. Don't forget to go to thorn down.co. Dot UK and typing the code, the TB carpenter to receive your 15% discount. And if you liked this episode, please like subscribe, share, tell people about it. And if you have any questions for me, contact me, Wayne Perry on Instagram or Twitter and I can answer any of your questions and get them onto the podcast. And all that's left for me to say is thank you for listening to the TV carpenter.

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