To start 2020 I chat with Nicki Bamford-Bowes, the quarter finalist of the smash hit BBC/Netflix show 'Interior Design Masters'
We talk about her experience on the show, where she finds design inspiration, and the Joy of creating great content for her Instagram
Guest: www.andthentheywentwild.co.uk
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Contact me: Wayne Perrey on Twitter and Instagram.
Music: "What's the Angle" by Shane Ivers
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To start 2020 I chat with Nicki Bamford-Bowes, the quarter finalist of the smash hit BBC/Netflix show 'Interior Design Masters'
We talk about her experience on the show, where she finds design inspiration, and the Joy of creating great content for her Instagram
Guest: www.andthentheywentwild.co.uk
Sponsor: To take advantage of the generous 15% discount from my sponsor Thorndown, please visit http://bit.ly/TVCarpenter. Discount code: TVCarpenter
Contact me: Wayne Perrey on Twitter and Instagram.
Music: "What's the Angle" by Shane Ivers
To learn how to achieve a Safe, practical and beautiful home,
join THE DIY DOERS Facebook group
On today's show, I chat with Nikki Banford Bose, one of the audience's favorite contestants from interior design masters.
Speaker 2:Zero regrets. It was the most Epic experience of my life. You learn so much, you meet incredible people in the industry, you realize so much about yourself, you push your boundaries in so many ways and you kind of figure out what the design style is in many ways as well. And it opens doors and it was just phenomenal experience and I loved every second of it. And anyone who would apply, you've got nothing to lose.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the TV carpenter. My name is Wayne Perry. This is a podcast where I interview all my friends from the world of interior design and garden make-over shows. So we get to inspire you to pick up the tools to be brave and to create your dream home. And I'm really pleased as always that my sponsor is thorn down pay. Now I got to interview thorn down, um, well before Christmas. And what I really liked about meeting them was they filled me in on all the, the information about what makes their paint so amazing. They have an amazing eco based woodwork paint, but this paint can be used on UPVC, on plastics, on wood, inside and outside. They also have appealable glass paint. But I was chatting with Ben and Caroline, the husband and wife owners team of thorn down and uh, especially Ben, he kinda loves geeking out on the whole science of the paint. We were chatting and he was telling me why you have to do minimal preparation when using thorn down paint. So have a little listen to this quick two and a half minute mini interview with Ben and Caroline as they explain what makes thorn down a superior paint.
Speaker 3:We were talking about search or pains and you good. Now that was the worst thing in the world because it means that this is breaking down. Explain that to me. Why talk paints not good or they call it short pain. Chalking is the terms used in paint for when it fails. So hope you've got too much filler in there. Then the binder, the resin can't really hold it all together and so it falls apart. And so that might happen if, um, people are cutting costs on resin or kind of blocker paint up too much and yeah, and you create the chalking paint. I'm not saying that's what all these short paints are, but that's the thing. They're very heavily filtered so they're very matte. Um, but it doesn't make them a bit brittle. So what, what, cause when I worked on, um, the great into design times when the first interior design shows everyone used chopping cause it was easy to adhere to stuff, you didn't have to do much prep to it. So why does that work? Because I think it just, it bonds with itself. So it makes a film over things. It doesn't necessarily adhere particularly well, but it because of all the filler in there, it, uh, it creates a coating which there in actual fact if you knock it, you'll find that it hasn't adhere very well at all. But it's actually easy to apply in Tris and as long as you're gentle with it, it'll stay there. What I love about thorn is there's minimal preparation needed. So it feels like you've, you filled that gap from chalk paint someone and know what the difference is. The differences. Yes. It's completely the reverse in some ways it's um, there's lots of residents which bonds very well with virtually any surface and being like getting plastic and metal as well as word and there's very little filler at all. And so you've just got the resin in there with the colors and everything else that makes the paint work and flow and nothing to dilute that in a way if you understand that. So you know, the resin is able to bond to the substrate and not to not try and just hold together. The counting. What I used to love is when we, when we first met on the first episode of loving your garden, I mean in new Ben, we w we use it quite a lot and we use it all over the world or all over the outbuildings and all that. And even David Domini was using with it, we were using it on all the pots and all that. And then a year later, Caroline, you came on and we were working and I remember David domino was like that blinking paint is there. He loved it, but it meant his gingham shirts, new thing he says is still stuck to me. I can still see that pain. We all laughed and joked about that. When you use it, it's not going anywhere. It's just so strong and so good. Um, and I loved that. The fact that everyone knew how good it wasn't that it covers everything, but they had a warning with it.[inaudible]
Speaker 1:it really is mind boggling, isn't it? The kind of the science that goes into paint who to thought it. But yes. I hope you find that interesting. I did a hope you've had a good Christmas and new year. Mine was lovely actually. We just a really nice quiet time. My wife works in the West end, so she only gets one day off for Christmas day. She's was doing white Christmas in the West end, so she had one show Christmas Eve and one show boxing day. So with Christmas day being the only day off and we went out for dinner and I also took a social media break. I kind of gave myself two, three weeks off, especially while my daughter was off school so I could enjoy it with her. And the only thing I posted was a little video of my daughter being told she's going to Disneyland in the new year. We're going to America to visit some friends over there. Um, which was really lovely. But anyway, back to my interview with Nikki Bamford bows now Nikki Banford Bose was one of the contestants on into design masters. She actually is a really, really good friend of mine. Her son is a, was in the same class in primary school with my daughter. They've both just gone to secondary schools and we known each, like I say for six years and we're really good friends. We'd been on holiday as families together, went skiing last year and I encouraged her to apply for the show cause I think she is amazing. She was amazing. And now she's just flown. I think you'll get to hear from the interview all the things that she's up to. What was really crazy is I've interviewed most of the contestants from the show and she was the last person I interviewed, one because we, she lived around the corner. I live two streets away, so we kept going, yeah, we'll do it next week. We'll do it next week, do it next week. And then I realized she was absolutely petrified. She gets all nervous by these things and she was amazing. Uh, when she gets chatting, she just goes for it. And all the things she has to say about interior design, about Instagram, about being on the show. I found really, really interesting and I hope you enjoy listening to them too.
Speaker 4:Yeah,
Speaker 5:Nikki, Nikki Bradford, Bose, thank you for being on the podcast. But first I just want to say a huge congratulations for the crazy year that you've just had. Thank you. Oh my gosh. It has been a bit insane. Yeah. Describe to me how you feel about this year. Gosh. Well, it's just been probably the most exciting and crazy year to date. My feet have literally not touched the ground. And it's been phenomenal. It's been, I love for anyone, my listeners who don't know Nikki's Nikki Batho bows of and when they went wild, which is her Instagram, she was one of the contestants in interior design masters. Like where did you come within that? Like you were, you weren't where you were semi-finalists I can't remember what, what type, what point did you leave? So I'm trying to work out how far did you get? So out of the eight episodes, I went out at episode six, fourth fourth overall. Overall, I think you were a winner there.[inaudible] you're very kind. I will say that. But what's interesting is I, for people who don't know, we'd known each other and I worked out, I was chatting to my wife today and we worked out, we've known each other for six years. Yes, our kids are in, we're in the same primary school together. Um, and so we've met the school Gates, but more than that,[inaudible] is our eldest kids. So we became quite good mates. So collectively we'd been tweaked to this sport playing arranges. We'd been on holiday together, so we'd really good nights. And I think for years I've been trying to get you on these interior design shows. I tried to get you on the great interior design challenge for years and you said no, you had a baby, you had a lot of the time, a bit tied up, big data, but then you agree to do interior design masters. Why did you agree to do this one? Well, you just really sold it to me one night in a bar. I probably had one too many wines in a grade, um, that I would consider it. Yeah, it just sounded really exciting. You know, by that point I'd had my third child and I had already doing more and more
Speaker 2:interiors work. I mean, as you know, I have always been obsessed by interiors and it started doing more interior jobs. I was doing lots of work on my home and I've just so passionate about and been so consumed by it. And the timing of it really just kind of worked. You know, my daughter was just starting school and it was just an opportunity that I really thought maybe I should consider this. And then my husband totally got behind me. I'm just like, do it, do it, do it. Um, and I very nearly didn't apply because I nearly bottled it, but he, he got on my back and just said keep, keep going, do it, do it. And I did. And then basically, you know, the rest is history.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I love it. I'm Matt. Matt is a really good mate of mine as well. We go into quite a few drinks and I think a few times I'd called him and said, come on brother, get her to do this. I think this is perfect. So I think between me and Matt and everybody else, we shoehorned you into it. Um, what is your background? So what, what did you do before being a mum and before doing the interior design show?
Speaker 2:So my background is graphic design, my degrees in typography and graphic communication. I didn't know you did a degree. Yes. Degree. Yes. I do have a, a BA honors in it. I'm from in university many immune ago. And after I graduated, I worked in publishing for years. Um, I was art director of magazines, um, and that involved, you know, dealing with all the layouts and the design and managing, um, junior designers and the production. So it was a pretty fun long kind of job. And then when I went off on maternity leave, my first, um, it became quite tricky going back to that work because it was in print and it was always, I was always the last person in the office at the end of the day, um, wasn't really working with a young child. So when I had Oscar, my oldest, uh, I went freelance. Um, and I joined up with my sister who's also a graphic designer and we formed a partnership, uh, which was great. And we did that for many years. We worked on some really big brands and some really varied projects, which was a lot of fun. Uh, but by the time I had my third, how did you balance having kids and business? It was, it's always been a bit of a juggle, you know, child care. But the reason I wanted to do it is because I wanted to be at home for my kids and be around and do the school run. And it was, you know, it's one of those things where you end up working a lot more in the evenings, but then I'm there if they're sick and I just wanted more control over being able to be around for them. So it was a big decision to go and do that. And at times I do think it might have been easy to go back and get a job, but you know, it worked for me and it worked for my family and, but by the time I had my third, after I went back, kind of just lost my heart a little bit with graphic design. You know, it became very techie, web-based. My background is print. Um, ended up dealing with a lot of technicalities, like people's emails when we launched a new site. I just kind of lost my love with it a little bit.
Speaker 5:Yeah, because it's interesting you've, you've managed to shift that whole like graphics into your interiors. Have you always been involved in interiors? Have you always liked that side of things?
Speaker 2:Always been completely interior obsessed. You know, from a very, very young age. I've always been collecting things at jumbo cells and styling my room with lace doilies and plants. Um, you know, battling my parents, certainties, interiors, taste. Uh, and then when we bought our own home, we did lots of renovations that love just grew because I just was in my absolute element being able to really express my creativity through my home. And then that kind of escalated really. I started doing work, um, with a builder who then moved on to a property developer. He then recommended me to their clients. And so that whole thing, just organically glute groove it. Um, and people recommended me to friends of friends and yeah, it's just been one of those things that that's just happened naturally.
Speaker 5:It's amazing cause when we first, I remember you had a, this was years ago when you invited moms and dads around for drinks.[inaudible] is the first time you check out everybody's house. You just do it, you're going to go. And we literally walked into the house, this is the incarnation before it is now, before the big renovation. And it was stunning. Then we were like that. And that's when I was like, going, you need to get on this interview. Um, but what I love is, I've seen you firsthand as a designer in that many years ago, was it now I think Matt wanted to meet to make you as a Christmas present. And it was Christmas and the books on Thunderbolt. And he said, yeah, the light. And he said, look, can you make me a Thunderbolt light? And I kind of had a sense of you. And I was like, do you know what? Rather than me rush this, why don't my fee, I'll say like, this is how much to be, give her a voucher for me and we'll create together. And we created this amazing Thunderball light. And if you look on Nicki's, um, Instagram and when they went wild, you'll see it on there. But that's, that sparked this, this interior design relationship that we have. Um, and I think I've worked as well. I think I've done pretty much something in every single one of your room of your rooms within the studio. Now it's beautiful studio. But this, I remember the studio, we talked endlessly about the designs for this. Um, but I just remember seeing, I've worked with lots of interior designers on, into design shows and, and various lots of private people as well. And just there's something about your design that is stunning and I'm, I'm trying, I tried to capture it and I, and I think that's been noted in, in your Instagram. People are loving what you do. How would you describe your style?
Speaker 2:My design style I would say is probably quite brave and bold. You know, I'm not worried about where I put paints. Um, I like lighter, like dark. I love experimenting with different um, ideas and textures, paneling on walls, color combinations.
Speaker 5:It's interesting cause I, I know you, you are brave. Like you know, especially that first episode of interior design masters. I didn't work with you on that, but you do definitely quite dark. And so you went for it. But you're so measured though. Did, I mean, so it's weird, like I know you was brave, but I know that you've thought about it so much. Whereas I spoke to Frank on the podcast before and he was like, he just throws it out and hopes I hope it sticks. Do you know what I mean? Literally. Um, so like has that always been, have you always been quite measured in what you, you the way you think about things or, you know,
Speaker 2:absolutely. And I think that probably comes back from my graphic design background and my training and the fact that you know, you, you consider everything as a whole when you're working. And a lot of those influences definitely come through when I'm designing. So everything is considered in terms of scale and color, composite and composition. And so as much as I am brave and bold, I do like to think about that overall concept and the bigger picture and try and get as much of that nailed and in place. So although it might seem brave and bold is every, everything is very considered. Talking about the interior design masters, what was your favorite episode? Oh gosh. So many, I think my absolute favorite was episode five on their shallows working with you because, you know, we worked so hard, but we had so much fun together and we just worked from the moment we woke up to the time he went to bed and it just all came together and we were just so thrilled with it. Do you have how we work together with the overall look? Yeah, it was just a lot of fun and a lot to do every, every, I mean every episode got bigger and harder and tough and it was like suddenly we had all these rooms to do and it all had to be cohesive. And we had this brief, which was for, you know, more of a country style, which was perhaps a little bit different from my, my norm. So it really pushed us in many ways. Um, and the fact that it all came together, we were just thrilled.
Speaker 5:I love brilliant. It's interesting. Didn't we find out that they got rid of all the furniture out of that chalet? Apparently they absolutely loved it, but I'm not sure what they're after. They probably sold it all on, but it made a bit of money. We don't know. So what if you, looking back, I watched quite a few of them with you, we have a bit of an interior design masters party at yours every Wednesday night. But looking back on the mall, do you, is there anything that you would change or do differently?
Speaker 2:Not hugely. Uh, the probably two main things. One would be student accommodation, uh, where my boxes didn't quite fit at the last minute. Devastated, absolutely devastated. But I would say caught up doing the kitchen, which was the group project. I kinda took my eye off the ball a little bit with what was going on with that. And also we had this issue with, the plywood was covered in this fire retardant sticky paint and we were, we ended up having to repaint a lot of things to sort of cover the yellowness of it. And they were outside and then they didn't get moved until the final minutes. So, and then they didn't fit and it was just like, no. Can I just say they find a built then that might affect them more than a hundred percent with the difference between TV design and real life design. You know we had a deadline and in real life you would've just changed it or tweaked or you would have been triple checked and we were just on the go the whole time. So many things to think about in such a short space of time and you can only do what you can do and it was one of those things we've run out of time. It didn't fit. I might have dressed the room slightly differently perhaps because I don't think the concept was potentially clear enough, but it is what it is, you know? It's a shame you still got through. I still really loved the room and I had so much feedback that was so positive from students themselves who left the room. So that was really reassuring and I think maybe I perhaps would have been a bit more black and white on the sofa. That would have been my only other thing. I perhaps didn't feel like I stood up for myself and a half. I think you were wise to know that it was, and we discussed this afterwards, that it was a TV show and you know that you're in the hands of the editors. So if you'd have said, you know, and Frank foul foul of this and even he said it, you know, you say one bad thing, you might say a hundred good things to say, one bad then, but if they need you to say a bad thing, they'll use that but in the idea, so you just didn't want to give him that satisfaction. He was like, no, and I'm not, you know, I'm not that kind of person. I don't want to throw anyone under a bus. And you know, it's frustrating at times when you, you know, I guess this was one of the slight hesitations in ever doing anything like this is your at the risk or you're in the hands of editors and you know, 99% of the time I think actually they did me proud and I came across as me. But there are elements I guess that you feel your Viscount and maybe your point doesn't always come across so well. So yeah, that's always I think a slight worry. But standing up for myself, I think I just felt like I perhaps didn't do that enough. So would you for anyone applying for the show now, because obviously people are applying for a show, which is an interior design show, but we're not allowed officially allowed to say it's interior design masters, but everyone knows it is the company who I've advertised at the only company who make it. Um, would you suggest that people went out for the show? Absolutely. I mean, I it, you know, I had zero regrets. It was the most Epic experience of my life. You learn so much, you know, it's, you meet incredible people in the industry. You realize so much about yourself, you push your boundaries in so many ways and you kind of figure out what the design style is in many ways as well. And it opens doors and it was just phenomenal experience. And I loved every second of it. And anyone who would apply, you've got nothing to lose. That's what I realized. So yes, obviously there are all hesitations in any kind of doing something like this, but why not just go for it? And my biggest tip I would say is just be yourself. That's all you can do is stay true to you as much possible. Yeah. And then you can only be proud of the outcome.
Speaker 5:Well, it's interesting cause you said to be true to yourself because all of you guys were all hired for different reasons. You all cast your cast, you know, you all had a different take. You all had a different look and feel. We've talked about Julie's color. Do you know what I mean? Everyone's got their own thing. And I think if as soon as you start looking like somebody else, then you're not true to yourself and you're not, you know, you're not nothing to offer. Um, you say it opens doors. Um, I just want to talk about your Instagram. So, but instead, what I love is you didn't really have an Instagram account until like literally a few, like a year before we'd started. And, and you, I know you're asking me about Instagram now, you're like 65 and a half thousand followers. He's gone insane. Um, your Instagram and then they went wild is your grade is amazing. But what I found really refreshing with you is each of your posts is pretty much a, a a blog post. It was that intentional.
Speaker 2:Not necessarily. It's funny because I feel like I don't have a lot to say, but I have a lot to say. And at that point I didn't have a blog and I was never intending to have a blog, I guess. Uh, I, you know, it's a great way to try and express your design thinking. And what I loved about it was initially people were saying, Oh, they're quite long, but people read a lot of what I write and they feed back. And I think it's really great to be able to get a bit of your voice and your personality over and you can take as much or as little of it as you want if you only want to look at the pictures and that's fair. But if you want to actually really understand the thinking behind the design, it's all there, you know, most of the time. So it was just a great way of being able to express some of my design thoughts of why I've done something. So it wasn't initially intended to be that way, but it kind of grown.
Speaker 5:Yeah. So your Instagram is, like I say, it's beautiful. And one of the big things that landed recently was your blue room, your back, what'd you call it? Your kind of my blue blue room now. And I'm proud to say that I was involved in that room. I was proper naked, proper naked on this. I made the cupboard doors and the sofa. Um, and it's funny because we'd made those quite like a couple of months before and um, you were like, don't put any posts out. I'm going to do a post when it, when we've got time to put it all out. How did you know the response from that has been insane? Like does tell, talk me through what, what you've received on Instagram from that one post alone.
Speaker 2:Oh wow. I mean, I think it's funny because when you do a room in your own home and you live in it and you breathe it and sometimes I don't always post things immediately cause I actually really enjoy having them to myself for a little while first. But when I put it out there, I was blown away by the response. Um, a great thing I think about that room was we made a lot of stuff to go in it. So the sofa, I'd always wanted a Cain sofa but they were just so out of my price bracket. And so I was just like, you know what? Let's just design and make one ourselves. I know way you can help me. I'd never don't carry him before. I'd never made a sofa before. But yeah, it was really that getting the look at an affordable price and that was, you know, a real achievement to be able to create that. And then I'd already had some shelves built in and I just wanted to cover all of that up with some cool doors. I already wanted to pick up the, the cane idea that was going on with the circles. And so we, you know, I wanted some lights in the area so we just, so I designed some cupboard doors to cover it all. So what was sort of like, where did you get the inspiration for that from? Do you want me to like, I know everyone now and I do it myself. I look on your, on your Instagram a goal. She's using that blue collar like, Oh, I like that color. So jump me in. And now the color of the year is blue Royal. It's a different blue, blue gold, but yet, but like where do you get your inspiration from? Where do I get my inspiration from? I mean, obviously we look at Pinterest and Instagram is incredible for inspiration. Uh, but my biggest thing is really going out and looking around. My eyes wants to talks the whole time. It can be anything from a shop window to an art installation to something that's um, I mean, for example, the niche shop. I loved it because the circles and the tubes that came from that came from actually from the building sites where there was lots of long great big, yeah, the piping. Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, I love that kind of the graphic shapes and the fact that they're moveable. So it's just constantly looking around and I think you just need to get out there and look at things and keep your eyes and ears open the whole time. So I'm just like a great big sponge. Basically what I love is every time you come, you come back and I speak to Matt, you know, I've had this idea for this room. It's like he balks now. I just rolled his eyes, but he doesn't let me get on with it. In fairness, he's loved you too. It's like when I turn up, he's like, Oh, are you coming out for a drink or is it going to cost me money? But like with Instagram, you're now, you are an influencer. Now, whether you like that term or not, you know, 65,000 followers, you can't not be. Is there a pressure to that or is it become a job? Are you still enjoying Instagram? I mean, gosh, Instagram has been a whole new world for me. I put it off for a long time just because I was so busy with life. And then once you start it you have to feed it. But I just, I love it, you know? It's incredible. It's been incredible in so many ways. I mean it's not my main job. My main job is working on interior design, so it is an extra full time job in itself, which I'm having to learn to juggle, particularly family life as well. So it's pretty full on. And obviously there is that pressure of what next what I'm saying? Like, you know, you've got big things like you know, Halloween, you know, Christmas, your, your wreath. There's a, if anyone's seen on your Instagram, if your intern, if you haven't go check it out when this goes out would be new year. So the
Speaker 5:rates will be coming down. But it is amazing. Like, you know, so did you feel a pressure to create something amazing or would you always have done that?
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's just got bigger and bigger as I've gone on, you know, an excuse to get me. Yeah. Cause I love it. I absolutely love it. Obviously next year I'm panicking slightly. I'm like, gosh, I need to top that now.[inaudible] but you know, I do love it and I love challenging myself more than anything. It's the biggest thing that pushes me and it's just to keep pushing myself, pushing my boundaries. And so yes, there is that pressure, but I kind of thrive off at the same time. It's not a bad pressure. Still creative. Yeah. But it, you know, it's, it's fantastic when you hear that it's inspired other people. I mean, the thing that most excites me in life is being inspired and to hear from people around the globe that you've inspired them. I mean, it's just the absolute bomb. You can't beat it. And that just keeps pushing me to keep going. You know? What next, what next? So that was my next question. So, uh,
Speaker 5:you know, it's January, this is going out. So it's new year. That last year was interior design masters. So what, what is next for you? What's your plans?
Speaker 2:Gosh, I don't know. I'm always open to ideas. I've got some residential interior design projects going on at the moment, which is really exciting and they're coming together really nicely. In terms of my goals. I would absolutely love to work with some more brands. I love designing things to be made, so that would be amazing to be able to do something like that to create more leather toward you.
Speaker 5:Do you know, they collaborate with sofa companies with vast company bed linen companies, you know.
Speaker 2:Exactly. We have so many ideas. It's just, you know, knowing how to fulfill that design into manufacturing and then some money, we'll just be honest about it. Ultimately, all money would always be one of them, you know, just keep growing and doing what I'm doing. I love doing the Instagrams. I'd love to carry on building on that. Um, obviously a book would be amazing.[inaudible] why not?
Speaker 5:Well, you know, doing the interior design show, you know? Yeah. You know, I spoke to Cassie and we're all, they're all friends, we're all friends. But it is that thing of the one person that everyone comments about is you. I, cause I meet people all the time and they're like, Oh my God, well Nikki should have one or I wish Nikki had got fashion. I've gone out at that point and all that lot. So, you know, and you can be as humble as you like, but everyone loved what you did, you know? So if people wanted to contact you or were interested in you, you know, maybe working with them or collaborating with you, what's the best way people can contact you?
Speaker 2:Uh, probably either will email me, I think, you know, visit my websites. And what's that in? It's a very good question. Um, my websites and then they went wild.co. Dot. UK and where did, and then they went wild. Where did that come from? What's that about? That came from something I just couldn't shake. It was basically the idea behind it is walking into a room and just absolutely loving it. You know, you love it. It makes you go crazy, you can go crazy in it. It's just designed or a space that pulls on your heartstrings and creates an emotion. Uh, and that's really, I guess my ethos is just creating something that makes you go look,
Speaker 5:but wild. I never knew that. And now we're just wrapping up. But at the end of my podcast, I always ask my interior designers to design their favorite space that could, couldn't have it. Your house is stunning. I built a lot of it. So I'll take some Prairie with a watchful eye of Nicky. Who did I do within the inch of its life? I got naked. But um, so it didn't, it couldn't necessarily a room that you currently have or it could be room that you aspire to have that you haven't told Matt that you want him to pay for yet. Um, tell me about that and tell me what you're drinking whilst in this room. Oh
Speaker 2:gosh, what I'd obviously like to build my own house. Um, and
Speaker 1:would you go, would you go ultra modern or would you go to[inaudible]?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm not sure to be honest with you. I think it would have a bit of both because I, you know, I live in a Victorian house at the moment. I love so many elements about the traditional Victorian home, but I do have quite a modern take on things. So again, I think I'd have to think about that one. Uh, but I would be drinking several drinks with all my friends dancing on the table.
Speaker 5:We have, we have done so many tables, um, Nikki Bamford bows over when they were weld. It's been, my good friend has been an absolute pleasure talking to you. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:She really had nothing to worry about did she? She came across brilliantly and I hope you enjoyed what she had to say and how she explained what it was like being on the show and what she got from the show. But one of the things I'm really proud about, my dear friend Nicki, is her Instagram. Like we said in the interview before the show started, I think, I think that six months before she even, um, went on the show was in the middle of the show. Uh, that's when she first started Instagram and I was the one telling her about it and now it's this huge 65,000, you know, strong following. But if you look at, and when they went wild, you'll totally see why there's some amazing stuff on her grid. But I think she's also made it work through her tenacity and also just being super talented. So yeah, really, really pleased for her. So check her out. Um, and, and then they went wild. Great name as well. And also if you like little interview at the beginning where I was talking to thorn down, you can get 15% discount. So if you go to thorn down dot code at UK and type in the code T V carpenter, you get 15% discount on all that online products and check those out. And I'll be back next week with another amazing interview. So I hope you enjoy the show. I hope you enjoy listening to the podcast. And remember, if you want to contact me, you can contact me, Wayne Perry on Instagram or Twitter, and you can also leave me a review and subscribe. Do all of those things that make people finders and enjoy the show. And if you've enjoyed listening to to me talk, please tell other people, tell other people about it so they can check out the podcast and look at some of the other past interviews that I've done as well. But all that's left for me to say is, thank you for listening to the TV carpet down.
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