Wayne shares highlights from the last 5 episodes of season 2

As I prepare for season Three, this is a chance for me to look back at the best bits from the last series.

Winner of series 3 of 'Interior Design Masters' BBC/Netflix
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Emily Murray, interior designer and life style journalist of 'Pink House Living' book.
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 Verity Coleman, Contestant from BBC 'Interior Design Masters'
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 Max Parker-Smith,
Contestant from C5 'Great Garden Challenge'
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 Nick Snow, Interior Designer and TV Stylist
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Transcript

spk_1:   0:03
on today's show, I'll be showcasing the last five episodes from Season two, So this will include Sarah Mitchell, who is the winner off the Great Interior Design Challenge. Emily Murray from Pink House. Living here is an author and stylist. Verity Coleman. There contestant from Into Design Masters. Max Parker Smith, who was a runner up on the Great Garden Challenge on Finally, My Good Friend Nick Snow, who is a TV interior designer. Hello and welcome to the TV Carpenter. My name is Wayne Perry. This is a podcast where I get to interview all my mates, all my friends who work in the world of interior design and garden makeover shows. I work in makeover shows building, creating Onda, assisting lots of amazing interior designers and gardeners. So I thought I would create podcast where I could pick their brains on dhe, give you a CZ many top tips so that you, the listener, can create your dream home. So this is around a week. So we're in between seasons whereabouts, taxis and three next week on. What I like to do is in between is do a little bit of catch up, but off what happened the previous season. So we're gonna be looking back at five of my guests on just picking out some of their their gems, their little nuggets off off information that they told me so that we could have a recap on. Check them out on this is also enables anybody who's never listen to the podcast before to be able Thio have a little taste of what of the kind of things we chat about. But first, this week has been one of those insane weeks. I decided to do a whole new rebranding because of the podcast, that which has become really successful. I'm so proud of it. Um, I decided to consolidate all my different facets of everything that I do all the different websites that I am part off and create one website called the TV carpenter dot com. And on that TV carpenter dot com, you'll find links Thio my podcast, obviously on, but also my private carpentry. My TV carpentry on dhe, the D I Y Do is which is a free resource for anyone who didn't know you. There's a Facebook group you can go on. It's a bit like Mom's net for D I y on. Do you can ask any questions and this load of videos and Pinterest to things like that? So it's full of We have lots of useful information, all free, that can help you so that launched today. Actually, other recording this we've just made it live. So if you want to contact me that the blessed best place to contact me is the tv carpenter dot com. The other thing that went live today is on the ideal Home Show website. They've announced who my guests are on their new room set stage. So this is a new stage that's being created. Andi, it's a revolving stage on with a ll. There was three interesting room set sweating away in an innovative rooms on, but it will stop revolving, and it'll become my home for the podcast. And I'm gonna recording live versions over this podcast life in front of an audience. You will get to hear the results of those recordings, obviously, but really pleased to say that my first guest is my boss. Mr Allen Teach Marsh. So I'm interviewing him on opening day. He's opening the show, and I think he's doing a few talks on the Super Theater. But I was also gonna be joining me for half an hour. I guess I've got so many, but I have what? Tell them all now, but you can go on their website and I will announce them on my website as well. But there it's going to be I've got the winner. Cassie, who we've had in the podcast before on Jew and Nikki Bamford bows. The three of them will be on together talking about into design masters. I've also got Michelle a gun din, that judge head judge from interiors. I'm masters. I'll be interviewing her. She's got a book coming out, so I'll be talking to her about her career on her new book, That's soon to come at the end of April. I've also got the to LG Studio, two lovely gays who were on the podcast before they've got a book coming out, so they're gonna be on there as well. I've also got a few of the guest that aren't 100% confirmed, but it is exciting. I can't tell yet. It's better even on the website yet, but we've got some pretty cool guests lined up to be our recording on this podcast live at the Idol Home Show. So yes, you can check out the guests all the full guest list on there. Ideal home show dot com website. But first, it's time for my first guest. So my first guest on today was Sarah Mitchell, Sarah Wars wth E winner off the Great Interior Design Challenge. Season three. I think it was She's lovely, and what's amazing about Sara is not only is she a phenomenal interior designer, but also she started out as a garden designer. So she's one of the very few people who can do gardens on dhe interiors and the whole pretty much most of our jobs I hunt. He's hired because she does the inside and outside space, and she shares with us how she manages to design both gardens on dhe interiors. So you see all these amazing into design program, so these people will have an extension on the famous one. You'll have a big double extension at the back with by folding doors. Open out onto the garden on That happens all the time. We see it all the time. So what are the rules like that you come in when you look at that space, and especially in London, or everyone has that they're out there that dream that watch grand design, that dream of outdoor indoor living and it's connected with the outside. But like you say, they stop both ends. We know within the middle net never should they cross. But they want to achieve that. What the rules to create that

spk_0:   6:11
the amount of times that I've seen these beautiful bi fold doors and then the photographers they're trying to take photographs of them can't can't because the garden beyond is a sham. Oh, what are the rules? I mean, the rules are fairly similar to interiors in the you know, it's all about understanding how you want to use the space. Andi. If you do it cleverly, then you can extend your living space outside on Dhe. Extend that sort of vision on. Then the rest of it's our sect building, isn't it? It's creating that vibe that you want to create, but the majority of it really is understanding how you want to use that space and then getting the most out that space.

spk_1:   7:02
So I've seen it before, where people would like the picture of the levels of the same. So it's like a continuous space, but also that the floor materials would you say they should be similar?

spk_0:   7:13
Yeah, we do quite a lot. Actually. Trying to run the materials inside and out can be tricky because of the difference of needs of outside on material. So way work a lot with stone or creating really thoughtful thresholds so that you've got a really beautiful material ending and then another one beginning. So if you're designing on extension button inside out, if everything from the floor up being nearly thoughtful about materials and how thing marry and how they flirt, that's a very good stall.

spk_1:   7:51
Yeah, and color wise. Do you do? Do you try and match up the the flowering aspect of things So it matches the color and inside the house and the color palettes there saying,

spk_0:   8:06
No, not normally. I mean what I do try and is, for instance, you have a really it's more about the feel. I suppose so. If you have an uber modern house, then having an uber modern garden feel quite heavy. So what trust me to do is create a balance. So say, for instance, inside is very industrial than often outside. There might be areas, wildflower alarm or organic planting just to soften what's happening inside. But you can't do that in a really modern right now.

spk_1:   8:41
That's amazing. That I would never have thought of that. It's interesting is that in my head I would've gone well ever got this food, but modern glass extension, then my external needs to be as harsh and as hard as as the inside. But actually you're saying to counterbalance it a little bit to soften it off a little bit.

spk_0:   8:58
Yeah, it depends on the age of the property. So often I'm working on older properties on dhe. They're putting really modern interiors into them. A ll. There's updating the period features inside, and it's it's just creating a balance. There's a beautiful flow that happens if you can see the inside and the outside working together. So if you were just working on a room, for instance, as a designer, I guess you're constantly trying to adjust areas so that it's got a really good balance and a really lovely bhai. If you ask the garden and then you're extending that

spk_1:   9:36
vision spring is approaching, you probably will have noticed. There's quite a lot off interior design books coming out on. And he was really lovely for me to interview a lovely lady called Emily Murray. She's actually a neighbor. She lives around the corner from me on Dhe. She has a really cool instagram account called Pink House Living, and she's got a book of the same name on Dhe. At first glance, you will Come won't be interested in this book, but she explains the book and the reason why she chose Pink on the whole process, off off, creating a house using Pink. And I think she explains it perfectly when she summarizes her book in this next. So you go through True partly. I mean, you list the whole pink thing, Although there's a lot of pink in my life. This book isn't really about paying. No, and neither is my account in the center of my block. It's about the concept off what pink means to you, as in Pink is my joy is my way of having fun. But you know, it's not like I'm trying to push it down anyone's throat. Although of course, it attracts people who love it, too, but it doesn't put people a lot. People, you know back would hate pink, pink, pink gray. They're using the bank's color. You want neutral in many wrecks and actually, yes. So that's why it could come in in many ways. But you can always substitute any color, but in the way you like for me, pinks, Fine. But I mean, I'm gonna get bored about talking about pink, you know, after 5 10 minutes. But it's nice to have something a sort of underpinning it all. But I guess what this is is just my way of telling my story of decorating, of the projects that I've done on the little stories behind them. But I think in a way, because this is kind of the book of the Instagram, because the bloke with the Instagram, the stories that the accounts the feeds that I most enjoy on its Graham are those where there's a real human story behind what's been going on. Because interiors by themselves can get a bit like the, you know, just picture you just looking at pictures, pictures of room you've gotten here. There's a human life there. And so this is the story of how I got my sofa bed stuck, you know, halfway out the window and how you know my mom had to sell it all back up again and how I had to repeat the process, because what move tags we had to like. We saw, you know, And then I buggered off to about Mob because I didn't want to watch the experience. But this is the stuff that anybody who's ever tried to decorate her. But anyway, we'll know that there's so much that goes into it, and it's to do with the logistics it's to do with the human relationships it's to do with. I'm finding what you think. I'm looking inside yourself and saying, What is it that I really am? Because if you're surrounded vice home, that doesn't make you happy, then it's just not great. But if you do manage to tap into those things that kind of make you go, wow, then then you're on to something really special. So it's really about about that. It's about yourself about your relationships, So why would you think it's a good It's a good book for I mean when I was, I had a few different targets in mind when I wrote it. One was a book for somebody who has just bought their first home or moved home and is looking for some ideas and inspiration and a kind of a bit of a laugh as well. In a slightly the way you've had a baby, someone might buy you a book that's kind of supposed to make you feel like have a laugh but give you some ideas and make you feel like Oh, yeah, someone else is going through that, too. But the voters of this because that hopefully people will think we're just looks lovely lying around anyway, even if you don't open it all people to buy for themselves if they just love color and they want to think about new ways of using color.

spk_0:   13:42
Or in a way,

spk_1:   13:43
it's for somebody who enjoys reading kind of fun magazines. Because I feel like with my magazine writing and editing background this I feel like I've created a bumper magazine which is supposed to be entertaining with lots of sort of helpful tick bits, but with the kind of I don't know this entertaining aspect as well. So this book should make you laugh, and it should make you think, What's good idea? It was really interesting when asked. He brought that book home after having the interview with Emily. I left it around and my wife found it. And, Boy, she loved everything in it on dhe. So we're in the middle of deciding how to do our bathroom at the moment is gonna be pink, but I don't mind, actually is rubbing off on me. It's looking all right. My next guest is Verity Verity Coleman. Now she was one of the contestants on Into Design Masters. She only got two Episode three, which is a real shame because she is a really talented, a brilliant businesswoman, and she's an amazing interior designer. On dhe. We had a little chat, and we touched on the subject off of the benefits of employing an interior designer on dhe. How sometimes It's quite hard to quantify the cost and, you know, even just hiring a professional because sometimes you don't physically get anything, but actually, by having in an interior designer there or having a professional trades person there, you can offer advice actually can save you money and come up with some really interesting on dhe cost saving ideas. The cost is or anything like that. Is it traditionally always being? You know, the habit of people will look at the money, but actually, having into China can really save you money in the long term, especially with everyone doing what the renovation? Because, you know, because we're seeing it all the time when we're around it, you know, I can help. Lies. Oh, you need to be careful. But this is happening, For example, your floors running all the way through. Otherwise you're gonna find what it, Bill. There's, like a step in the middle of that room that you didn't really want. You know what people see on. I mean, I'm sure you find what people see on drawings isn't necessarily what they have in the head. Exactly. The contents to visualize it. Exactly. Exactly. It's very easy for all of us working. It was a trade and diners on artifacts. Look, a drawing understand bit, and you kind of askew. Most people are growing every day when, of course, if you're a residential client, it's your home. You may never seen a drunk on your life, you know? And I think clients scared to say, Oh, I don't really know what that is. So I don't know what that looks like. Everyone else. Oh, yeah, that's cool. But, you know, that makes them It's those tips like I do when I'm doing private carpentry, they'll go bookcases. I want six shelves. Well, you know, I can put six Shelton, but you're not gonna be space Anything on it. Didn't you know? You know, I want drawers in the water. It'll piss you off. You tell me if they're open to doors to drive a wardrobe to go. Sure. Uh, you know, I end up talking myself out of work. But then, actually, what happens is they then come back to me with the bigger jobs, because then you know that I've been on it step by and I hear you. And we can pimp that up rather than you spend a fortune me doing that way. It's not the person that's the wall color, Same walk other. And those curtains will look perfect on number hold. It is. But I think you you pick up things they do with experience and is the same kind of problems that people have. It's just unless you're seeing all the solutions all the time in other parts, not necessarily apply them back. And I think people underestimate the value that someone with experience in the, you know in the work you have on their projects and it's no always finite. You know, it's not the easier you know, a product when you go into a shop and buy a product and gone somewhere they're buying. But which by service it's a bit different. I'm so fortunate because every shell I do, I get to me some really cool, talented people on dhe. I don't think I'm old, I'm 42 but when you see someone you know who's, you know in the early twenties in whose smashing it in their chosen career, it's really inspiring, and there's always something to learn from them. So I did a garden show called The Great Garden Challenge for Channel five. It was a gardening competition to find the best new garden designers on dhe. I worked a lot with a guy called Maximilien Andi. I interviewed him a couple of weeks ago on Dhe. He ik was the runner up. P was that the finalist? Uh, in the in the show, we didn't quite win, but I built for two of his gardens on. I just really loved his fresh approach. And when we were chatting, he touched on the idea off not just designing a garden, because beautiful, but because it gives the people are in the garden something back. So particularly in workspaces and how it could be have some amazing health benefits. So this is Max talking about the health benefits of the gardens that he designs about trends and things because, you know, you were a young designer. Let you say you're your garden is a constantly evolving and things that you did years ago you, Jen, you know, you probably would move on. I'm the same with carpentry. I approach things differently. From what I used to do a few years ago, Chelsea This year I couldn't go. I can get a ticket. It's like you can't get in there. What? What trends did you see that have inspired you? You're interested to put new gardens this year?

spk_0:   19:38
Um, well, okay, So it was very obvious that it was going back to the more naturalistic style. Um, on dhe tryinto decided more sustainable. Used native plants make trees, which I'm certainly proud of it. Um, I suppose I suppose it is. What I really did like was seeing plants that aren't. You know, typically, it felt like when you look at them straightaway, they're not the most beautiful plants ever. But it's just like when you start looking at you into further detail and giving them a chance. And you see, it worked wonderful things. They are. I think the tendency was always, you know, there was very much, uh, Chelsea planting, which, you know, there would be lots off, um, lots of lavenders born a cast rooms or blue pins, surgeons and geraniums and everything that this is the beautiful plants. But what kind of like is the ones that are kind of like, understated? Yeah, the ones that might see in the background Thursday, the ones that are potentially more interested in just because you don't see them everywhere. But also I do think there's a really connection that we have when things are done naturally, you know, like it really you'll be walking through a field and you'll be your most calm on. I think having a natural $6 a day east like a little space in your garden does wonders for you know, your mentality and your emotions. And so I think I feel well being. It's great to have, like, a naturalistic area,

spk_1:   21:15
because it's interesting. You said that on your website. You talk about the rooftop garden pal Mal, and you added Rosemary because it adds texture, and it's a healing fragrance for the employees to enjoy. And that's what I just said. It was quite a lovely statement. I was like, So do you plant with the well being in mind rather than just looking pretty?

spk_0:   21:36
Oh, well, I think almost is your responsibility to, as a girl in Oregon designer, too, to instill these things in in gardens and people's lives because, you know, I don't think the designers job is just to make things look nice, you know, way have a duty of care toe to bring certain things to people and toe be sustainable and conscious or people's well being. I think that's gonna want todo throughout. My whole career is it's not. It's not just for aesthetics. Yeah, There's so much more than

spk_1:   22:09
that when you discover somebody on Instagram. So you decide to research them that you'd be interested in having them on the podcast and you see on their websites there Strap Line is fabulously flamboyant with a Sprinkle of sass. There's no question this guy has to come on the podcast. He's absolute brilliant. He's called Nick's now. His interview just had me laughing for days. This guy was brilliant, Andi. I remember him throughout the whole time. Into it is I'm masters. Have Bean shown he'd be doing life feeds on Instagram about like a running commentary of the show, which went down really well, and we discussed that quite a lot. But we had a really good chance, and it was really nice. Just he was exploring the idea off. If people are quite conservative in their choice of interior design on Dhe, how he manages to push them on, push their boundaries a little bit and the little tips and tricks he uses to encourage them to get more color into their schemes. But he does it in such a brilliant way, and he shared this with us last week. Interestingly, you talked about that whole pushing the boundaries. So, you know, without naming names, you've got 20 houses, 20 clients that you're making over. And I see and hear this a lot within two designers that they'll meet the client and they'll go. I want to be bold. I love color. And then all of a sudden they lose their bull bottle and they kind of end up going back to Grey. I don't mean like that. They'll have a cushion. How do you coach and, you know, how would you inspire somebody to? Because if you look on your grid, I think before we even I was aware of you doing the Instagram, I think I commented on one of your room because it was blue and it was shocking Blue. I loved it. My house is full of blue. That's a that's a three theme that runs through your grid. How would you? How would you coke somebody into using color into that into their interiors?

spk_0:   24:09
Wow, I think, you know, ultimately panting could be painted over, and that's what you know. That's why I tried to kind of start the conversation with, say, what is the worst that can happen. And for me, I work with any color. It's all about. The accessories should fit into a space so you could walk into the room and have, you know, really hideous. So magnolia on the wall. But if you use the accessory is on the right pops of color tonally for about space, then you don't notice the fact that the magnolia is there quietly in the background, looking horrendous. But for me, color. I love using pops of color with accessories because those things that could be changed. So somebody's scared of painting a wall green or painted double arrange. Then I think, Dry Cave. I'm really not gonna get that far with How can I bring him some color elsewhere? So ever be on the curtains for being abroad, whether it be on accent chair. So I think people, if they're really using color, they come around to the facts that today, having really Barbara cushions, it is just about almost spoon feeding them at the star. I like to kind of them when I'm dressed in the spaces, bring in a few bits of my own. I'd kind of brought along without them no into kind of pop in there just to see what their reaction is to see what they think. Because actually, once a room starts coming together, you can really start to understand why those decisions were made. Yeah, so, yeah, I think it's difficult sometimes. Not people scared color. Some people would like to use it differently. You've got, like Lucy to you is totally bowled. Then it looks amazing. So if you're open, sir, and then you've got some people that like to use it in a more elements of a different pops of color. Suppose and pops of color is used quite a lot in the industry, but I think it is one of those things that really helps hearts of room. So different personalities really can be quite tricky. Sometimes they restored back Thio quite mutual in tears out. If there's anything wrong with that, I think you know the scans maybe in neutral words are very in right now on they look with the blacks and the wise just as beautiful with a colorful interior.

spk_1:   26:37
Yeah, How you you're doing these 12. You know, I work in TV shows. I'm creative and sometimes because on your grid for example, you've got a very distinctive style. Like I said, it's very blue, very pops of orange, very vibrant. How you trying to? How you trying to make a lot of these 20 rooms look like They're not the same? Is that a challenge for you at the moment?

spk_0:   26:59
Wow, you know, I think that comes with just years. Expect there is because I cannot make every single group look like how wise it would just be 20 blue and orange room, you know, for me, it's about ultimately finding out about Mitch, about the therapist. I'm buying about height. Is there no understanding? You know, there's so many different trends out their different styles that you could go down. So I, through years of crime, starting magazines and also teaching interior styling. So I have to be quite adaptable. You know, I think that my Instagram is quite personable to me at my own style. But then I went. I'm starting for other people. That's not necessarily how I would approach their rooms or though I do like to put a blue where I can, because I just love it and everyone needs a bit blew their lives so Yeah, it is one of those things, isn't it? Where it can be tricky with people when they're nervous. But I just think right, if they do, they're not gonna be. They're gonna be too nervous to use color there. Why not make a statement through sort neutrals and just make something a bit more elaborate? I just for me, e. I'm not really a fan of boring. So glad interiors, which I don't think any of us are you a quote in the industry? I just like to see something off that passed down to us suppose

spk_1:   28:27
way are I hope you enjoyed the takeaways from a Season two. It's been really lovely looking back and seeing and listening to some of the conversations that I had along the way. Season three's about to begin. So I'm in preparations for is really crazy. It's kind of say it was started off being a bit overshadowed by the whole ideal home show guest list kind of thing. I was trying to get the guests for that on people who were available and wanted to be on the main stage at the adult home shown talk in front of an audience. But then I had a handful of potential guests. You said, You know what? I don't want to do the live shows, but I'll come and have a chat with you or we'll do some telephone interviews and I have actually pre recorded a few already. Four Season three And they're pretty epic. Some really cool, cool guests, eh? So I'll be mixed. Season three will be a mixture off the live shows. On will be some pre recorded ones as well, so you'll get to get to hear them all by listening to the podcast you can now. Don't forget. You can leave me messages on my new website for TV carpenter dot com on. Believe me, Mrs there, check out the website on there. Don't forget to leave reviews and subscribe on iTunes. All of those things helped more people finders. And if you if you actually listening to this show, just tell other people about it. I look forward to starting Season three with you. I've got some exciting news coming up then as well. Hopefully we can tell you all about that with some new TV stuff that's happening and, yeah, I can't tell you that yet, but I want to help you be able to tell you next week on Dhe A. What's left for me to say is Thank you for listening to the TV cop.